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LM-12
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posted 12-22-2015 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LM-12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is an interesting comment from an interesting man who played key roles in both missions.

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posted 12-22-2015 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAholic   Click Here to Email SpaceAholic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...but, as I say, 100 years from now, historians may say Apollo 8 is more significant; it's more significant to leave than it is to arrive. That's all.
Find myself in disagreement with Collins when benchmarked as a technical achievement. Attaining escape velocity was far less significant then the challenges of safely landing/operating/departing from the surface of another world.

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posted 12-22-2015 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rusty53     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my opinion it was Apollo 11 because of the affect it had on the human soul when we actually touched another world for the first time.

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posted 12-23-2015 02:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Dixon   Click Here to Email Mike Dixon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
11 hands down in my opinion. For the time they were out there, the best photography (killed a few other missions who stayed longer) but a pivotal moment in time.

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posted 12-23-2015 03:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's not in your list: servicing the Hubble Space Telescope.

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posted 12-23-2015 05:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ted     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has to be Vostok 1.

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posted 12-23-2015 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ejectr   Click Here to Email ejectr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can say Vostok 1 or any of the others that came before Apollo 11, but the goal was the moon. It was our goal and it was the USSR's goal.

Apollo 11... hands down. Anything before was practice and learning. Anything after hasn't touched it.

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posted 12-23-2015 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gonzo   Click Here to Email Gonzo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LM-12:
What do you think is the most significant event in manned spaceflight history?
As some of you know me and my fondness for Apollo 11, you'd expect me to say that mission is the most singularly significant event. But I'm not going to. To me, it's a tie that's hard to split.

Pardon me for getting philosophical here, but as the question was asked, it's really a philosophical question that can only be truly answered from philosophical viewpoint.

Vostok was important, and significant, but it still limited us to our own small part of the cosmos. Both Apollo 11 and Apollo 8 deserve very high marks for a single mission because they broke those bounds. So in that respect, Vostok was a stepping stone to a bigger reality.

Apollo 8 was significant because it was the first time we, as humans, left our world. The reading of Genesis from the moon with the Earthrise as a setting, was also socially significant (particularly so for the Christian based western world) because it put in perspective, for the first real time for everyone (both Christian and non-Christians alike) the smallness of our part of the universe. It was one of those defining moments for mankind.

Apollo 11 on the other hand allowed us to actually step on another world for the first time and safely return to our home. That to me will always be a major mark in human history.

So both missions are significant to human history. I'm sure others will point out that Vostok may be bigger to the Russians, or that the ISS is more significant because it is "international" and aimed at international space cooperation (ignoring that it is a series of events, not a single defining moment in history as the question asks). But if you look at the question from a HUMAN perspective, disregarding any political and religious ties, Apollo 8 and Apollo 11 would be at the top of anybody's list. By any definition, they are the biggest significant single events on their own in human space flight history. Which one is more significant is up for debate.

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posted 12-23-2015 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LM-12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It was on this day in 1968 that we saw, for the first time, those grainy, black and white images of the distant Earth during a live television transmission from Apollo 8 as it headed for the moon. Remember that odometer on the screen?

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posted 12-23-2015 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cozmosis22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Apollo XVII when we said goodbye to the moon, apparently to never return. Here we are some 43 years later and still no real plans to go back.

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posted 12-23-2015 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for star51L   Click Here to Email star51L     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hard to pick one over the other as most significant, so I'll leave it at this: to me, Apollo 11 was the most dramatic, Apollo 8 was the most magical.

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In my opinion, I'd have to say Apollo 11. From all that I've read and studied of the early space program, that moment when Neil Armstrong set foot on the Moon was the sum of all of the efforts - the climax. I guess it can be argued that the subsequent Apollo landings, Skylab, the Shuttle, and the ISS are pretty anti-climatic, remarkable achievements that they are. To be the first to set foot on another world other than Earth is the ultimate, only to be equaled by a mission to Mars or asteroid.

Apollo 8 is a close second not only for the achievement, but for being the one great thing to come out of a very bad year. Then there is the other firsts, such as Vostok 1.

My two pence.

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posted 12-23-2015 11:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oly   Click Here to Email oly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For me there are three events that stand out. Al Shepard, sitting on top of a converted weapon to be fired skyward without an ejection seat, operable hatch or window took some courage, Apollo VIII rounding the back side of the moon for the first time loosing all contact with earth and Apollo XI from PDI to touchdown, the first EVA on another surface and the assent thru to rendezvous with Columbia.

All of these are unknown never before done events that previous missions had not tried. As the progress for each successive mission was an extension of previous missions, these 3 missions were in fact firsts.

Taking nothing away from the astronauts that ventured out on missions between Shepard and Apollo XI. Missions post these have been look back on as becoming routine.

Following close by Young and Crippen on the first Shuttle flight. Launching in a totally new, never flown concept took some bold brass units too. Even if they had ejection seats that had an extremely small operational window.

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My vote goes to Apollo 9. This flight laid the foundations for what was to come and the procedures developed paved the way not only for the '11' landing but also the successful conclusion to the '13' mission.

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posted 12-24-2015 07:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LM-12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
James Lovell mentions in this 2008 Chicago Tribune article what Charles Lindbergh said to him about the Apollo 8 flight.
Eight months after the Apollo 8 mission, NASA asked Jim Lovell to escort aviation pioneer Charles Lindbergh at Cape Canaveral as Neil Armstrong and his Apollo 11 crew blasted off for the moon on July 16, 1969.

As he was marveling to Lindbergh about the historic import of the event, Lindbergh stopped him, Lovell said.

"You know, Apollo 8, to me that was the high point of the space program, because it was the first time humans traveled outside the pull of Earth's gravity," he said Lindbergh told him. "You were the pioneers of this. Landing on the moon is just the icing on the cake."


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