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RMOORE
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posted 04-12-2011 11:18 PM
   
Just read this article on the "top 10 most expensive pieces of space memorabilia." Not sure they are entirely correct but interesting all the same! And sorry Robert, couldn't resist... |
SpaceAholic
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posted 04-13-2011 09:57 AM
Most expensive does not necessarily equate to the most historically significant or impactful ...I can understand why collectors might fixate on the spectacular prices realized for artifacts but would prefer to see a focus on the latter categorization. |
randyc
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posted 04-13-2011 11:34 AM
Not only are some of the items listed not particularly historic, it's not accurate (it appears that whoever wrote this article only listed sales that occurred in the last few years).I recall an Aurora auction that sold Dave Scott's Lunar EVA-3 wrist checklist for around $155,000. I'm also sure that there were other space memorabila items sold that exceed the last two or three (or four) items on this list. |
MrSpace86
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posted 04-13-2011 12:06 PM
What about the Soyuz TM-10 capsule? The Ross Perot Foundation owns it and I think they purchased it through an auction. |
fredtrav
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posted 04-13-2011 12:16 PM
Now you can add the Vostok 3KA-2 which sold for almost 2.9 million. |
Bob M
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posted 04-13-2011 02:15 PM
And at the bottom of the article, click on "Space Memorabilia" and then "Notable items of space memorabilia and collectors" and listed are names of nine notable collectors, including 2-3 who are members here on cS. Space Tourist Richard Garriott is included among the nine, plus an on and off dealer, Joe Davies, who is better known as a Bonsai tree grower. |
Robert Pearlman
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posted 04-13-2011 07:32 PM
Not to suggest the obvious, but as Wikicollecting is a wiki, it can be edited by anyone (although unlike Wikipedia, it appears an account is needed first). Maybe the cS community can help clean up and improve upon their information as presented? |
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posted 04-19-2011 11:43 AM
My name is Dan, I'm a moderator at Wikicollecting, a free open source encyclopedia for collectors.
As collectSPACE is the leading forum for space collectors I thought members might like to help edit and contribute space related pages.
Adding content is free and easy to do and will help build a collecting resource for future generations of collectors. Wikicollecting also has a news section so I'll be posting the latest space news stories on here whenever possible.
I look forward to getting to know you all over the coming months. |
SpaceAholic
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posted 04-19-2011 12:38 PM
I've been a longtime proponent of such a wiki - please see Establishing a Space Artifacts Wiki. Before committing a lot personal time, can you provide us more information on who is funding, hosting the site (primarily interested from the perspective of the sites long term viability) and what sort of capacity/capability can the Wiki support (for example an image intensive SQL type or other relational database for artifact cataloging); what is the process for validating the accuracy of entries. Dont want to put effort into a resource that will subsequently die on the vine. |
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posted 04-21-2011 10:29 AM
The Wikicollecting.org concept was born by a group of avid collectors based in the Channel Islands who are sponsoring the site; similar to you they saw the need for a Wiki for collectors and collecting related topics.
The hosting costs are minimal. The site is hosted by Wikidot.com who host a number of other large Wikis including Wikiwealth.com
The idea was to create a much needed free community for collectors, where they can add their knowledge and create a legacy for future generations of collectors, by way of information, auction results, dealers listings, price guides etc. As a community, what is contributed is more important than the expertise or the qualifications of the contributing Wikicollector.As a community the accuracy of entries will be determined by the contributors to the site. Anyone is welcome to edit pages to ensure that all entries are cumulative improvements towards the community. New pages can only be opened by registered users known as Wikicollectors. Registration is free and open to all. A team of moderators is also in place to ensure accuracy of contributions, and to ensure a style guide is followed.
The site opened in February 2011 and already has over 2,000 pages.
As a community the more collectors that get involved the stronger the community will become so we would very much welcome your contributions. |
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posted 08-01-2011 11:10 AM
Thought you might be interested in the top 10 most expensive items of Apollo 11 memorabilia.If you feel you can improve upon it please do so! |
Greggy_D
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posted 08-01-2011 11:19 AM
#4... really? The flight coverall which was used by Buzz Aldrin to train for both the Apollo 11 and Gemini 12 missions is currently available for purchase from Paul Fraser Collectibles for $123,750. So, if I put a price tag of $400,000 on my Apollo 11 kapton, it automatically becomes the #1 most expensive item from Apollo 11? |
Larry McGlynn
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posted 08-01-2011 02:24 PM
The Apollo 11 lunar flag remnants failed to sell at the Goldberg auction. |
Robert Pearlman
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posted 08-01-2011 03:55 PM
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Originally posted by Larry McGlynn:
The Apollo 11 lunar flag remnants failed to sell at the Goldberg auction.
According to Goldberg's representative (Michael Orentstein), the flag remnants ultimately did sell post-auction to the high bidder for $45,000 (including the buyer's commission). |
Larry McGlynn
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posted 08-01-2011 08:11 PM
Good, then we now know the correct price that these pieces sold for. |
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posted 09-02-2011 11:05 AM
A writer has submitted Investing in space memorabilia on the open source collecting encyclopedia Wikicollecting, for which I'm a moderator.It regards investing in space memorabilia. I was wondering if the experts on here would be kind enough to take a look at it and tell me if: - The page was accurate and useful?
- Is there anything missing?
Here at Wikicollecting we aim for our site to be as accurate as possible.Any advice or amendments you can make, either on the page itself or this forum, would be much appreciated. |
garymilgrom
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posted 09-02-2011 11:10 AM
On the list of space memorabilia collectors this website should be listed under its correct name, collectSPACE, rather than CollectSpace. |
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posted 10-04-2011 11:26 AM
I thought this Wikicollecting Top 10 on Russian space memorabilia might appeal to some you? Hope it proves interesting. |
SkyMan1958
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posted 10-04-2011 09:12 PM
I think these lists might have a few little gaps... or to put it another way, here are some items that should be included in the lists.Let's start with the number 1 most expensive U.S. item. It was the Apollo 11 LM timeline book. It was lot 116 of the Goldberg's 10/20/07 auction where it went for $253,000 (this includes bid PLUS commission). (If the buyer was a CA. resident he/she could add another ~ 10%). For Soviet/Russian items the top 10 list is seriously lacking. THE auctions for Soviet/Russian memorabilia were the Sotheby's 12/11/93 and 3/16/96 auctions. Just from those two auctions alone there are 16 items that went for $110,000 or more (that INCLUDES commission). Two (maybe 3) of those items were sold more recently and are on the current top ten list. The 3KA-2 Vostok, currently #1, was lot 25 at the 3/16/96 auction where it sold for $550,000 (tied for SECOND on the list of 16 items). Leonov's Apollo/Soyuz suit sold at the 12/11/93 auction (lot 92) for $154,000, so obviously both items made nice profits for their owners. The possible third repeat item is Gagarin's typescript, which, since there is no description about it in the top 10 list, I'm not sure is the same item as Gagarin's official report of his flight which went for $352,000 (lot 15, 1993 auction). Aside from those items here are the other artifacts that went for at least $110,000. All of them, except the last, are from the Dec. 11, 1993 auction. - $1,650,000: Lot 175, Soyuz TM-10, which was intact, unlike the 3KA-2 Vostok. It took the first Japanese, Toyohiro Akiyama, into space.
- ($550,000 Vostok 3KA-2 capsule).
- $550,000: Lot 154, Kosmos 1443, Merkur capsule.
- $440,000: Lot 68, Lunar rocks from Luna 16 given to Mrs. Korolev.
- ($352,000 Gagarin's official report of his flight).
- $253,000: Lot 40, Leonov's Berkut training spacesuit for Voskhod 2.
- $253,000: Lot 178, Sokol KV-2 spacesuit used by Toyohiro Akiyama, the first Japanese in space, on TM-10.
- $209,000: Lot 29, Vasiliy Mishin's diaries and notebooks for 1960 - 1974.
- $187,000: Lot 10, Ivan Ivanovich cosmonaut mannequin flown 3/23/61.
- $167,000: Lot 49, Prototype Lunar EVA spacesuit.
- ($154,000 Leonov's Apollo/Soyuz spacesuit).
- $132,000: Lot 182, Sokol KV-2 spacesuit used by Sergei Krikalev, the "Last Soviet Citizen", on his TM-12/TM-13 5/18/91 - 3/26/92 flight.
- $110,000: Lot 11, Gagarin's handwritten manuscript for his 4/10/61 speech to the State commission on spaceflight, accepting his selection to fly.
- $110,000: Lot 55, First mail delivered in space, Soyuz 4, 1/14/69 - 1/17/69.
- $110,000: Lot 13 Gagarin's SK-1 training suit.
- $110,000: Lot 364, 3/16/96 auction, Kosmos 1978 Spy satellite.
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Robert Pearlman
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posted 10-04-2011 09:22 PM
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Originally posted by SkyMan1958:
Let's start with the number 1 most expensive U.S. item... It was lot 116 of the Goldberg's 10/20/07 auction where it went for $253,000 (this includes bid PLUS commission).
Both of Jim Irwin's PLSS and A7LB patch presentations sold at Christie's in 1999 and 2001 for significantly more: $310,000 and $358,000 respectively. And there have been U.S. artifacts that have reportedly sold for seven figures through private treaty. |
SpaceAholic
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posted 10-04-2011 10:41 PM
Don't see any utility in a listing of "Top Selling" artifacts... clearly the author is fixated on price - a meaningless metric absent context. |
SkyMan1958
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posted 10-04-2011 11:26 PM
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Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:
And there have been U.S. artifacts that have reportedly sold for seven figures through private treaty.
Hmmm, interesting! Thank you for the info Robert!Would you happen to have any info on the objects that sold for $1,000,000+?
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posted 01-23-2012 11:23 AM
Thought some of you might be interested in the Top 10 space memorabilia sales of 2011. |
music_space
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posted 01-26-2012 07:47 PM
I hadn't picked-up on this item:
5. Tintin book signed by six moonwalkers - $132,400A copy of the Tintin comic book On a Marche sur la Lune, known in English as Tintin on the Moon, signed by a moonwalker from each of the six Apollo missions to make it to the moon’s surface, sold for €100,003 ($132,400) at a Universe of Hergé auction in November 2011. Buzz Aldrin, from Apollo 11, inscribed that he was the "first moonwalker after Tintin". "The first moonwalker after Tintin"... Now that's funny!  |
AJ
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posted 01-26-2012 08:51 PM
I've actually considered having my copy of "Explorers on the Moon" signed (I'm a lifelong Tintin lover). It certainly is a bit unique.  I'm delighted to hear about what Buzz inscribed; shows a nice sense of humor! |
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