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Topic: Space shuttle painting seen on NCIS
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Jay Chladek
Member Posts: 2272
From: Bellevue, NE, USA
Registered: Aug 2007
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posted 01-05-2010 11:53 PM
   
I tried doing a google search, but came up short. So I thought I would ask here.Anyway, I've been watching NCIS lately and I've noticed that on one side of the NCIS office set, there is a framed poster/painting of a space shuttle lifting off from the pad as taken from the air above the pad. Judging by what I can see, it sort of looks like it was done in the same art style as a couple of posters I picked up at Kennedy Space Center in 2006 of the (then) Ares I and V designs in similar displays. This particular artwork has been seen in the office since at least season 2 and several episodes usually have a camera pointing right at it (albeit a little out of focus due to the foreground action). But I've only noticed it recently. Anyone know anything about it? Reason I ask is although I know it is a long shot, I like such artworks and I would potentially love to add a piece like this to my own collection if I can figure out who the artist was and the organization it was done for. And frankly it is a very COOL shuttle artwork! So, any collectSPACE members know anything about its origins? |
heng44
Member Posts: 3386
From: Netherlands
Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 01-06-2010 12:00 AM
Sounds a bit like the Mark Waki painting 'T plus 30'. |
E2M Lem Man
Member Posts: 846
From: Los Angeles CA. USA
Registered: Jan 2005
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posted 01-06-2010 02:37 PM
After lots of looks, it is "T-plus 30". |
heng44
Member Posts: 3386
From: Netherlands
Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 01-07-2010 03:14 AM
I have a Morton Thiokol poster of 'T plus 30' by Mark Waki, which was apparently painted for the company. Waki is based in Brigham City, Utah, which explains the connection. I must say that it is a great painting and I wish I had his skills... |
TRS
Member Posts: 721
From: Wellington, New Zealand
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted 01-07-2010 03:15 AM
It is part of a pair on my wall - the second is Separation Complete. Both beautiful works with pride of place in my collection! If you go to the thumbnails page form the link Heng has put up you'll find the second one (plus some nice ISS ones as well) |
garymilgrom
Member Posts: 1966
From: Atlanta, GA
Registered: Feb 2007
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posted 01-07-2010 06:32 AM
T plus 30 And Flying Again comes up from time to time on eBay. I found mine for $9 including a frame! It is front and center in my office - a great painting from an unusual angle. |
Jay Chladek
Member Posts: 2272
From: Bellevue, NE, USA
Registered: Aug 2007
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posted 01-07-2010 02:33 PM
That has to be it. Makes sense that Mike Waki painted it as he is on ATK's payroll (not as a contractor, but he works in the ATK offices). He does paintings, CGI work and even has a hand at model work (both Mike and Matt have won IPMS USA model shows for their models). He even designed the Ares 1 paper model ATK offers.If you ever see ATK's booth at the conventions and trade shows, Waki built all the models on display. The main ones are a Monogram 1/72 shuttle stack featuring a cutaway of one of the SRBs, an Ares 1 (2006-07 configuration) and an Ares V. The SRBs on both the 1 and the V were done with the Monogram SRBs. Come to think of it, I think ATK also offered the posters I got of Ares 1 and V back in 2006. As such Mike Waki probably painted those, hence the similarities to T-plus 30. Thanks guys! |
Joel Katzowitz
Member Posts: 808
From: Marietta GA USA
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 01-08-2010 01:43 PM
Hey Gary, would that be your office garage or your garage office? |
Flying Dutchman
Member Posts: 161
From: Heemstede
Registered: Jan 2007
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posted 01-25-2010 02:11 PM
Does anyone have a good scan of the T+30 painting for me? I am looking for that one for quite some time now. I hope someone can help me. |
Robert Pearlman
Editor Posts: 42981
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 01-25-2010 02:52 PM
As "T-Plus 30" is an original artwork, it really should not be reproduced (at least not in high resolution) without permission of the artist. |
Jay Chladek
Member Posts: 2272
From: Bellevue, NE, USA
Registered: Aug 2007
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posted 01-25-2010 03:34 PM
And in this case since it was a painting commissioned by ATK, they would be the license holders of it in addition to the original artist. |
Spacefest
Member Posts: 1168
From: Tucson, AZ
Registered: Jan 2009
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posted 01-25-2010 07:34 PM
Not necessarily. Copyright stays with the artist unless specifcally contracted for, and I doubt ATK would pay the extra money (but maybe they would).I first saw Waki's Shuttle painting when it was the cover of the Clear Lake phone book in the early 90's. Reminded me of Wilson Hurley who did one for the NASA Art Program called "Columbia at 30 Seconds" which was painted in 1981 (STS-1), 6 years before Waki's version. Let me turn you on to another great military aviation artist Dru Blair. |
heng44
Member Posts: 3386
From: Netherlands
Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 01-25-2010 11:58 PM
As an artist myself and consious of the copyright issue, I think in this case it would not be a big deal if the painting was reproduced for private use because Morton Thiokol printed posters of it and sent them out by the thousands. |
Flying Dutchman
Member Posts: 161
From: Heemstede
Registered: Jan 2007
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posted 01-26-2010 05:01 AM
It was not my meaning to start a discussion regarding copyrights. Of course I am fully aware of Mark Waki's rights not to reproduce. But I thought when thousands of posters for Morton Thiokol have been reproduced, maybe someone has a poster or a scan for me. At the other hand I contacted Mark Waki via his website on his e-mail address but I get a undeliverable. Mail could not be addressed. |
Robert Pearlman
Editor Posts: 42981
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 01-26-2010 07:02 AM
Waki's website includes the following notice: ATK art is reproduced with permission of Alliant Techsystems Inc. Unauthorized use of any images on this site is strictly forbidden. His "T-Plus 30" page notes it is © Alliant Techsystems Inc. At the bottom of the page, a possible solution for a print is noted: Many of the ATK paintings are available as high quality lithographs through ATK Launch Systems, MS PUBS, PO Box 707, Brigham City, Utah 84302. While not normally available to the general public, the prints are available to military units, aerospace organizations and industry representatives. It certainly wouldn't hurt to write a letter asking for a print. I'll also inquire with the ATK representatives at the STS-130 launch site about the print's availability. |
Flying Dutchman
Member Posts: 161
From: Heemstede
Registered: Jan 2007
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posted 01-26-2010 08:57 AM
WOW! I certainly will do so. I'll start to write a letter right away. Many thanks. |
Jay Chladek
Member Posts: 2272
From: Bellevue, NE, USA
Registered: Aug 2007
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posted 04-20-2010 07:42 PM
Well, thanks to the sleuthing by you guys, I now have T plus 30 in my collection. I just need a frame for it now. As such it never hurts to at least ask since I got mine direct from an ATK rep at KSC and she was genuinely surprised when I said the painting was visible in NCIS episodes. |
alanh_7
Member Posts: 1252
From: Ajax, Ontario, Canada
Registered: Apr 2008
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posted 04-20-2010 09:18 PM
I have tried to reach Mark Waki through the e mail on his website to no avail. There are a few of his paintings I would like to buy prints of. Any idea how I may contact him directly? On edit: I read the thread closer and see Robert posted an address. Thanks. |
Fezman92
Member Posts: 1031
From: New Jersey, USA
Registered: Mar 2010
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posted 10-16-2011 09:36 PM
Anyone have recent success with trying to get a print from ATK? I wrote to them a while ago and haven't heard back. |
alanh_7
Member Posts: 1252
From: Ajax, Ontario, Canada
Registered: Apr 2008
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posted 10-16-2011 10:34 PM
No and I have tried several times. I love Mark's work. |
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