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KSCartist
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posted 04-22-2009 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This might be one of those questions that remains unanswered but hey this is cS where answers live. Here goes...

In the movie Marooned the "Skylab" crew went by the call sign Ironman One. Does anyone know if it was ever explained where the name came from?

My first thought is it was taken from the Ironman Triathalon. A feat of strength and endurance. But if you look at the crew's mission patch maybe they took the name from the Marvel Comics character.

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posted 04-22-2009 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JPSastro   Click Here to Email JPSastro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I saw this movie as it premiered WAY back when in Chicago. I still have the booklet that they gave out at the showing (they used to gave these items at movies back in the day). I will try to find it and see what info it has. It was in full color with a lot of info. I remember that Martin Caiden, Gregory Peck and David Janseen was also there. There was a contest where you could enter a drawing to win one of the spacesuits worn. Always wondered who won...

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posted 04-22-2009 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for history in miniature   Click Here to Email history in miniature     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tim, you must be psychic. I remember reading the book, and was thinking about it the other day. I still have the book, I could not put it down. That frozen fuel line still has its images burned in my brain.

I do not know where the name came from, but that book was one of my favorites.

Fra Mauro
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posted 04-22-2009 11:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fra Mauro   Click Here to Email Fra Mauro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I always thought the name came from the length of the mission. Maybe since it was called Ironman One, the series of missions were called Ironman.

One question -- in the preface, the author says that Schirra read the book and found one flaw, which is never revealed. Any guesses?

Jay Gallentine
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posted 04-23-2009 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Gallentine   Click Here to Email Jay Gallentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Ironman did not begin until 1977. Are you all referring to the 1969 film?

Jay Gallentine
(Ironman finisher 1993)

KSCartist
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posted 04-23-2009 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes Jay - the film. I'm trying to determine the origin of the mission name "Ironman One."

Since as you say the athletic competition known as the Ironman Trialthalon didn't begin until 1977 then that can't be it.

John Charles
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posted 04-23-2009 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for John Charles     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fra Mauro:
...One question -- in the preface, the author says that Schirra read the book and found one flaw, which is never revealed. Any guesses?
If I recall correctly, Caidin made that claim about Schirra in the preface to the first "Marooned" book, which was based on the last Mercury flight rescued by the first Gemini and a Vostok.

I've always wondered if that Schirra quote was maybe just another "gotcha" from Wally...

E2M Lem Man
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posted 04-27-2009 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2M Lem Man     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have both Caidin books, and they were the first science fiction I remember reading. During filming of From the Earth to the Moon, the prop guy gave me some ID badges he found for the Mission Control during "Iron Man One". They show a "Iron Man" a robot.

I wonder if the Triathlon came from the movie mission?

Mike Isbell
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posted 04-27-2009 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Isbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't recall that a frozen fuel line was what prevented a retrofire by the SPS engine, thereby leaving astronauts Pruett, Lloyd and Stone marooned. My recollection was that the cause of the engine failure was a mystery that could not be duplicated on the ground during test firings in a 'failure' mode.

As to the a flaw in the story, while I can't speak for Capt. Schirra, I certainly see a major one. The crew of Ironman One had refrained from performing an EVA two days earlier in order to conserve oxygen. When Astronaut Dougherty reaches Earth orbit aboard the modified XRV spacecraft there is less that 55 minutes of oxygen remaining aboard the Apollo spacecraft. Yet Commander Pruett is able to depressurize the spacecraft and attempt a last ditch EVA and still leave enough oxygen onboard to last astronauts Lloyd and Stone the 55 minutes (or slightly less) that they must wait until the Soyuz arrives, followed shortly thereafter by the XRV.

E2M Lem Man
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posted 04-27-2009 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2M Lem Man     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I remember that in the movie they thought it was a frozen fuel line but after Jim Pruitt goes EVA, in the book he sees a dark matter clogging the engine. Damn those aliens!

Cliff Lentz
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posted 05-07-2009 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cliff Lentz   Click Here to Email Cliff Lentz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JPSastro:
There was a contest where you could enter a drawing to win one of the spacesuits worn. Always wondered who won...
I believe someone in New Jersey won the suit, unless there was more than one suit. I was a regular at Edmunds Scientific Store in Barrington, NJ. It was one of the few places that carried Apollo patches. Apparently the winner donated the suit to the store. I took several photos of it and am currently looking for those images. It was on display for years.

My first reaction was that the suit looked much better on screen. The helmet was cheap plastic, almost like a picnic dish, and the seams were pulled on much of the suit. The last time I saw the suit, it was in terrible condition. They tried to make it look like someone was inside by stuffing it with newspaper and spray painting the visor gold.

The store closed several years ago and had a huge clearance sale but I couldn't find the suit. It probably would have been in my collection if I had.

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posted 06-26-2009 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apollo Redux   Click Here to Email Apollo Redux     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JPSastro:
There was a contest where you could enter a drawing to win one of the spacesuits worn.
Another thing for me to lament not being born on time for.

E2M Lem Man
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posted 07-01-2009 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2M Lem Man     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't mix up the books. The first edition (that Wally commented on) was where he found the problem on either "Mercury Atlas 10" or "Gemini-1" (rescue) and the Russian was "Vostok-10".

The second edition was the movie edition and it was Apollo Applications "Ironman-1" or XRV ("Rescue", experimental re-entry vehicle) and "Soyuz-11".

Sadly remember what really happened to the real Soyuz-11 and her crew!

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