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mensax
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posted 03-13-2006 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mensax   Click Here to Email mensax     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read here recently that the speed of the Moon's terminator, at the equator, is 9.6 miles/hour. The "terminator" from what I understand is a very distinct line that separates the lunar day and night. The speed of the terminator slows at it approaches the poles.

I find it interesting that the lunar rovers could not have outrun an oncoming terminator.

Noah

Duke Of URL
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posted 03-14-2006 09:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Duke Of URL   Click Here to Email Duke Of URL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I saw The Terminator, and Arnold could definitely run faster that 9.6 mph.

Your source was fulla hooey on this point.

Scott
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posted 03-14-2006 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott   Click Here to Email Scott     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ha!

I just had a thought: If Arnold had been commander of Apollo 17, what would he have said as he stood on the ladder steps and looked out onto the Moon for the last time before climbing aboard?

Steve Procter
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posted 03-14-2006 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steve Procter   Click Here to Email Steve Procter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scott,

'I'll be back!' (What else?)

Steve

Scott
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posted 03-14-2006 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott   Click Here to Email Scott     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Steve Procter:
Scott,

'I'll be back!' (What else?)

Steve



BINGO!

spaced out
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posted 03-14-2006 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Scott:
If Arnold had been commander of Apollo 17, what would he have said as he stood on the ladder steps and looked out onto the Moon for the last time before climbing aboard?

If you want to be a little less obvious how about...
"I need your clothes, your boots, and your lunar rover."

ilbasso
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posted 03-14-2006 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilbasso   Click Here to Email ilbasso     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't imagine that Arnold could possibly have avoided putting his head, hand, or foot through the thin skin of the LM!

zee_aladdin
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posted 03-14-2006 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zee_aladdin   Click Here to Email zee_aladdin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Will honestly, I think Arnold would've recognized that Congress was going to dump the Moon Program and would've said:

'HASTA LA VISTA BABY !!!'

- Zee

Scott
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posted 03-14-2006 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott   Click Here to Email Scott     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zee_aladdin:
Will honestly, I think Arnold would've recognized that Congress was going to dump the Moon Program and would've said:

'HASTA LA VISTA BABY !!!'

- Zee



I forgot about that! Good one, Zee!

Duke Of URL
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posted 03-15-2006 12:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Duke Of URL   Click Here to Email Duke Of URL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mensax, I apologize deeply. I only made one stupid joke. It's the OTHER coconuts who hijacked this thread.

Seriously, I don't think the Lunar Terminator moves per se. It's the Moon itself moving; the Lunar Terminator advances.

It would advance more slowly toward - excuse me, around - the poles.

Scott
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posted 03-15-2006 08:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott   Click Here to Email Scott     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, sorry from me too, Noah!

That's an interesting topic you bring up. Someone mentioned recently on cS about research that there may be an ion-induced (due to there being slightly different charges between the day and night lunar surfaces), moving "dust cloud" that follows the terminator as it progresses along the surface. Interesting to know how fast the cloud moves, if it exists. Hey I just thought of a good question to ask Dr. Schmitt during the field trip in April. [BTW, a bit off-topic but I checked online yesterday and for some reason the AAPG Schmitt NASA Field Trip is not yet sold-out, even though a few others are! Hard to believe that. It's #3 here: http://www.aapg.org/houston/fieldtrips00.cfm , $155 total for non-AAPG Members (most of us) and a once-in-lifetime thing IMO.]

On a related topic, isn't there believed to be a lunar feature (a polar hill or mountain) which is perpetually bathed in sunlight? Also, I'm pretty sure there is a different feature (a polar crater) which is perpetually in darkness. I believe NASA searched for evidence of subsurface ice under the floor of that polar crater by impacting it and then studying the debris cloud. I can't recall what came of that project (wasn't it planned for Prospector or Clementine?).

mensax
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posted 03-15-2006 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mensax   Click Here to Email mensax     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Come on now guys... no apologies needed... I just threw that bone of information out there... I suppose the phrase "the Terminator" was just too tempting not to bite.

:)

Noah

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posted 03-15-2006 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Duke Of URL   Click Here to Email Duke Of URL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, but I want you to understand that I fought the joke-making impulse. Mightily. For a whole two seconds.

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