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Larry McGlynn
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posted 12-31-2005 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Larry McGlynn   Click Here to Email Larry McGlynn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been working on some new sites and adding new bits of my collection to them. If you are interested, then here are the links.

A Tribute to Apollo www.apollotribute.blogspot.com

A Tribute 2 Apollo www.apollotribute2.blogspot.com

A Tribute to Space Art www.spacearttribute.blogspot.com

The beauty of these is that I can just keep posting when the mood hits me.

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Larry McGlynn
A Tribute to Apollo

KSCartist
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posted 12-31-2005 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Larry-

Great sites! Thank you for sharing them with us. It blew me away when you mentioned how Ed Mitchell and Sunita Williams stayed at your house and discussed their experiences over breakfast. You are a lucky man but then again I think you know that.

Tim

mensax
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posted 12-31-2005 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mensax   Click Here to Email mensax     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for sharing Larry! Keep it up!

Noah

MCroft04
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posted 12-31-2005 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MCroft04   Click Here to Email MCroft04     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Larry,

Great sights; thanks for sharing. I've only read the first part, but have a few comments.

-Great pictures of Meteor Crator. When I visited there several years ago, my wife told one of the guides that I was a geologist, so they gave me a copy of a paper by Gene Shoemaker titled "Guidebook to the Geology of Meteor Crator, Arizona" dated 1974. Great reding.
-Your picture of the entrance to Oak Creek Canyon struck me as being a great example of a glacial canyon. I don't know the details of the geology of this area, but this valley exhibits the classic "U" shaped form typical of glacial valleys, as opposed to "V" shape valleys typical of river canyons.
-The pictues of red sandstones are typical of "terrestrial" deposits which have been oxidized.
-I loved your pictures in Alan Bean's studio, especially the photo of you holding his rock hammer from the moon (and Skylab glove also). I own several of Alan's prints (and a paint brush), but not an original, but I'd love to get a chance to get a close look at the rock hammer. I'm jealous! On a side note, Jack Schmitt threw his hammer away while on the moon, instead of returning it to earth. Go figure.

Thanks again.

Philip
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posted 01-02-2006 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did the Apollo astronauts use 'regular' geology hammers on the Moon or some ruggedized versions ?

MCroft04
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posted 01-02-2006 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MCroft04   Click Here to Email MCroft04     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good question. I know that the hammers the astronauts used on the moon are not the standard Estwing hammer that I've used all my career (and many other geologists). They look like they were specially made, and considering they were going to be used for specific tasks on the lunar surface, I would expect that NASA specially designed them. I'll try to find out more.

MCroft04
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posted 01-02-2006 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MCroft04   Click Here to Email MCroft04     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Below is a description from the Apollo Lunar Surface Jounal of the Apollo 15 hammer. Although it does not specifically state the genesis of the hammer, it seems pretty clear that they must have been custom made for the moon. There are some good pictures of lunar geology hammers and other tools in the Journal.
"Apollo 15 photo AS15-82-11140 shows Dave Scott using the heavier-weight hammer at Station 9a at the edge of Hadley Rille. The hammer flown on Apollo 11 and 12 had an overall length of 41 cm, a weight of 850 grams, a head length of 16 cm, and a head thickness of 3.8 cm. The hammer flown on the later missions had a length of 39 cm, a weight of 1300 g, and the same head length and thickness. The weight difference was due to a difference in the head dimension parallel to the handle."

fabfivefreddy
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posted 01-02-2006 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fabfivefreddy   Click Here to Email fabfivefreddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wonderful collection!

-Tahir

zee_aladdin
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posted 01-03-2006 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zee_aladdin   Click Here to Email zee_aladdin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very cool site larry ... they all bring memories of our joy in meeting the astronauts and sharing part of their lives.

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK

- ZEE

Rick Mulheirn
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posted 01-03-2006 04:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is no secret Larry has one of the finest collections of spaceflight material "in the public domain".

But the image that encapsulates for me what this "space thing" is all about is that of Larry wearing Alan Bean's Skylab EVA gloves and lunar geology hammer.

Talk about the cat that got the cream........

Great collection Larry. Thankyou for sharing and long may it continue.

Regards,

Rick.

Philip
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posted 01-03-2006 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Estwing is the reference make for Geology hammers but the Apollo Hammer has another handle... I believe some firm was offering replica of these Apollo Hammers ?

Larry McGlynn
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posted 01-03-2006 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Larry McGlynn   Click Here to Email Larry McGlynn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Guys,

Thank you for the compliments. I enjoy going through the collection and putting up an interesting piece and telling the story behind it. I will continue as the "mood" suits me.

If you want to get an excellent idea of the geology of Oak Creek Canyon here is a wonderful link that describes the geology of the area.
http://www.sedonawebcam.com/sciences1.htm

I had thought Oak Creek was a river canyon based upon my travels through glacial excavated areas like the St. Lawrence Seaway. The above link gives a great description of the geologic events that formed the canyon.

As for the geology hammer, throw out all you know. This hammer is different in that it was designed for use in a lunar environment. The only resemblance is the head and the pick end. The handle is large and long for easy gripping with a pressure suitglove. The entire hammer is very light like aluminium. There is also a hollow portion at the end of the hammer. It looks like an attachment point for something.

Edgar Mitchell told me that the hammers had originally been designed with a cant for use with righthanded moonwalkers. The problem was the most of the moonwalkers were lefthanded, so back to the drawing boards.

Alan Bean also told me that based upon his use of the hammer on the surface that the head needed to be enlarged and was after his mission.

Global Effects was supposedly going to make replica hammers, but the last time I heard anything about that in Burbank two years ago.

Again thank you.

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Larry McGlynn
A Tribute to Apollo

Gilbert
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posted 01-03-2006 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gilbert   Click Here to Email Gilbert     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Larry,
Your website is excellent, but as someone who has had the pleasure of visiting your house, it does not begin to capture the magnitude and quality of your fantastic collection.

Gilbert

BMckay
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posted 01-03-2006 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BMckay   Click Here to Email BMckay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gilbert:

Could you imagine if Larry had more space in house?

mensax
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posted 01-03-2006 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mensax   Click Here to Email mensax     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK... I'll ask... it seems like I always have more questions than answers...

Which moonwalkers were left handed and which were right handed?

Noah

MCroft04
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posted 01-04-2006 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MCroft04   Click Here to Email MCroft04     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I had thought Oak Creek was a river canyon based upon my travels through glacial excavated areas like the St. Lawrence Seaway."

There are lots of examples of Pleistocene glaciation on the Colorado Plateau (e.g. San Francisco Peaks). While I could not locate any specific papers on Oak Creek Canyon glaciation, the valley in the picure clearly looks glacial, although it may very well now be a river valley (and may have originally been a river valley prior to being modified by glaciers in the Pleistocene time). But without further review I cannot be positive. I don't want to go off on an unrelated topic, but there's a tie here somewhere. The Apollo era astronauts did a lot of geological training prior to traveling to the moon, and some became very good at making geological observations even though they did not have the "formal training". My compliments to them! But my point is you can tell a lot about the geology of an area in a short amount of time just by knowing what to look for. The lunar astronauts were taught to look for "suites" of rocks that would best tell the geological story of the area where they landed. And while in general they did not find the kind of rocks on the moon that the geologists thought they would find (volcanic), they did a great job of collecting "suites" of rocks that have allowed reserachers here on earth to help unravel the lunar geology. Sign me up for the next field trip.

Gilbert
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posted 01-11-2006 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gilbert   Click Here to Email Gilbert     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BMckay,
If Larry had more space his home would be classified as a branch of the NASM and a maritime museum.

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