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spaceman
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posted 07-10-2005 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaceman   Click Here to Email spaceman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,
I'm sure this has been covered before..if someone can point me in the right direction that would be fine. I'm doing some research and on some lists of spacetravellers it does not include suborbital flights i.e. Al Shepard (Mercury flight).
thanks,
Nick

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posted 07-10-2005 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Common usage dictates that an "astronaut" is a person who launches aboard a U.S. spacecraft. A "cosmonaut" is a person who launches on a Russian/Soviet spacecraft. (A "taikonaut" launches in a Chinese spacecraft.)

(An "Astronaut" (proper-title) is someone hired by NASA to fly to space, regardless of whose spacecraft.)

That said, there is another definition, that assigns "astronaut" status to anyone who reaches space. Where does space begin? See this thread.

spaceman
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posted 07-14-2005 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaceman   Click Here to Email spaceman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Robert. I knew I'd seen posts on this subject. Can someone please direct me to a site that lists all space travellers in order of flight please?
many thanks,
Nick.

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posted 07-15-2005 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RMH   Click Here to Email RMH     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.spacefacts.de/english/e_first.htm

spaceman
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posted 07-16-2005 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaceman   Click Here to Email spaceman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks RMH,
I do use this site I think its great for information and portraits, however they list Alan Shepard as the 48th person in space.Hence back to my original question,
thanks anyway,
Nick.

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posted 07-20-2005 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RMH   Click Here to Email RMH     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nick:

According to spacefacts.de the link I posted is based on international rules. They only take flights with at least one orbit as "real" spaceflights. Shepards Mercury flight was "only" a sub-orbital flight hence he only got credit for Apollo 14.

If you know the dates of all those with a sub-orbital flight you could plug them in and adjust the numbers. A lot of work, but worth a try if you can't find anything else.

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posted 07-20-2005 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FFrench     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

It's printed instead of online, and only goes up to a certain date - but it's a classic, indispensible book which space buffs should own anyway, and contains the list you are looking for up to the date of publication:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0028970926/

spaceman
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posted 07-20-2005 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaceman   Click Here to Email spaceman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks All,
I knew I could rely on this site to come up with the help I require,
Nick.

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