Space News
space history and artifacts articles

Messages
space history discussion forums

Sightings
worldwide astronaut appearances

Resources
selected space history documents

  collectSPACE: Messages
  Free Space
  How do you...

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
profile | register | preferences | faq | search

next newest topic | next oldest topic
Author Topic:   How do you...
mensax
Member

Posts: 861
From: Virginia
Registered: Apr 2002

posted 06-26-2005 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mensax   Click Here to Email mensax     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How do you take a photograph of a glass framed item without getting the reflection of the flash in it?

Noah

Robert Pearlman
Editor

Posts: 42981
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999

posted 06-26-2005 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you must use a flash, try changing the angle from which you are taking the picture, i.e. from left or right, top or bottom. As a general rule of thumb, if you can see your reflection in the glass, you are standing in the wrong location.

A better solution may be to use exterior lights to provide the illumination of your subject that you can then position to allow for a head-on shot.

spaceuk
Member

Posts: 2113
From: Staffs, UK
Registered: Aug 2002

posted 06-26-2005 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaceuk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't use flash ! Override it on your camera whether normal or digital SLR type.

I've taken many images now of glass display cases - mainly with my own stuff in them at museums - using both film and digital SLR's.
Most of the time they come out well. Not much you can do about 'normal' reflections from the glass if its the full case or picture frame you want take.

If going with a friend to a museum (or if its an item at home) try taking large A3 size matt black art boards that could be assembled on either of the glass display cabinet or frame - to cut down glare from inside room. Its worked for me a couple times pretty well. You feel a bit of a 'banana' doing it but,hey,its for a good shot!

If its an item within the case try putting the lens right on the glass and then snap away.

If its an item of your own you're trying image - can you get it out of the frame ?

Incidentally, if its an item on display in a museum or similar establishment (eg art gallery) MAKE SURE YOU CAN IMAGE THE ITEMS BEFOREHAND FROM CURATOR. Its pretty common these days for museums to ask you to sign a form that basically says that you will not use any images or photos taken of objects or artwork in the musuem in any way except for your own personal viewing. Especially artworks where there may be copyright infringements.

If you do want to use these images on , say, a web page or in a news leaflet or magazine you may have to make a payment to the owner of the artwork or object via the museum to do so. Or, sometimes they may just want acknowledgments and web links to their own web site etc. Large aerospace companies now operate in this way eg Boeing

Apart from a few images where I have had to get permission I am careful to ensure that I use only reproduceable news release images issued by aerospace contractors and agencies like NASA,Novosti.

ESA is one point in question. These days - before they let you view many of their online hi-res images , you have to agree that it is for your own personal use.

Best of luck


Phill
spaceuk



Aztecdoug
Member

Posts: 1405
From: Huntington Beach
Registered: Feb 2000

posted 06-26-2005 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aztecdoug   Click Here to Email Aztecdoug     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am hardly a photographer, but I have had some success by photgraphing the item outdoors in the natural sunlight without a flash.

------------------
Kind Regards

Douglas Henry

Enjoy yourself and have fun.... it is only a hobby!
http://home.earthlink.net/~aztecdoug/

ejectr
Member

Posts: 1751
From: Killingly, CT
Registered: Mar 2002

posted 06-26-2005 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ejectr   Click Here to Email ejectr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Robert is right. Angle of incidence equals angle of reflection. Stand directly in front of it and you will get the flash right back at you.

Angle off to the side.

Ben
Member

Posts: 1896
From: Cape Canaveral, FL
Registered: May 2000

posted 06-26-2005 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ben   Click Here to Email Ben     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That idea will work, but the better idea is to use external lighting, placed on either side at an angle, and get it head on with the camera. This will give you a better looking photo of a flat framed item.

On the other hand, if you are not familiar with changing the shutter speed and aperature this may not be the best method for you.

Holding the camera an angle may get you distortion of the frame (perspective wise), and depth of field will be increased, possibly rendering parts of the frame out of focus.

Or, just try the angle method, and if you like it, keep it. :-)

------------------
-Ben

www.LaunchPhotography.com

albatron@aol.com
New Member

Posts:
From:
Registered:

posted 06-26-2005 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for albatron@aol.com   Click Here to Email albatron@aol.com     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jimmy Brown, of course - is the photographic expert of all here - so hopefully he'll weigh in (he is a photogapher professionally for a living and the best Ive ever seen). Its been my experience though if you HAVE to use a flash, then if its an adjustable one, angle it upwards. Also, an old trick is to use a handkerchief over it to diffuse the brightness.

Al

mensax
Member

Posts: 861
From: Virginia
Registered: Apr 2002

posted 06-28-2005 06:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mensax   Click Here to Email mensax     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks everyone!

Larry McGlynn
Member

Posts: 1255
From: Boston, MA
Registered: Jul 2003

posted 06-28-2005 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Larry McGlynn   Click Here to Email Larry McGlynn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Noah,

Another way to photograph a glass framed object is to break the glass and then take the picture.

This accomplishes two things. First, you no longer have to deal with a reflective surface and second, you can touch the object of your affection more easily.

Larry

dsenechal
Member

Posts: 539
From:
Registered: Dec 2002

posted 06-28-2005 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dsenechal   Click Here to Email dsenechal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't forget to use a polarizer. These filters do a great job of removing reflections from glass. If you use this with a flash, it may take some experimentation to get it right. However, in a non-flash situation, you can preview the effect through your SLR viewfinder, and it virtually eliminates the reflection.

[This message has been edited by dsenechal (edited June 28, 2005).]

All times are CT (US)

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Administrative Options: Close Topic | Archive/Move | Delete Topic
Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Hop to:

Contact Us | The Source for Space History & Artifacts

Copyright 2020 collectSPACE.com All rights reserved.


Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.47a





advertisement