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Marti
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posted 06-18-2002 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marti   Click Here to Email Marti     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As suggested by the title, this post has nothing to do with space exploration, manned or otherwise and am probably breaking some unwritten rule or other by submitting such a message, but as a daily visitor, I felt one of you may be able to help me out.
For sometime now my girlfriend and I have been try to find out how, when, where, and with what, we need, to teach in the US. We both have just graduated with BA Hons degrees, in music/drama and English/drama, respectively, we'd both like to teach drama to 12-18 year olds, and neither of us has any quaifications in teaching itself. Does anyone know anything on visas, jobs, education system or anything that might help.
I'm really sorry for writing this on the collect space site, but I'm a desperate man, I've tried everything and have had virtually no success.
Thanks for your time, Marti.

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posted 06-18-2002 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rodina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

These days, you can get a job in teaching if you have college degree and a pulse.

I would check with the local (i.e., state) boards of education and see what they have about "emergency" credentials for teachers; California it's pretty easy from my understanding, but check where you want to be. Your results may vary.

If you can figure the local credential issue out - then contact local school districts for positions. As for a visa, that I can't help you with.

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posted 06-18-2002 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Werb   Click Here to Email Werb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have to agree... al it takes is college and a pulse. I can't speak for the rest of the U.S., but up here all you have to do is pass the state exam, and apply.

As for a visa......... I thought as long as you could provide the people that be that you were in fact going to be working over here, you could very easilly get a work visa. And that will allow you to be here as long as you are working. It can be made into a permanent visa or whatever later. I know this because a friend of my mom's kept her work visa going for almost 20 years.
Hope this helps.

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posted 06-18-2002 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for riolag   Click Here to Email riolag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Marti

I'm not a major expert (actually I'm not an expert of any kind lol), but because I've dual citizenship my dad was able to move to the States recently as a US resident. To enable him to do this we spent quite a lot of time going through the requirements.

Are you thinking about just obtaining a work permit or ultimately becoming US resident / citizen?

Either way the first port of call I'd think is the INS (Immigration and Naturalisation Service) website which is www.ins.usdoj.gov/graphics and/or the US Embassy in London which has an INS department which handles amongst over things Visas and permits.

I don't know whether getting a visa will be as easy as the guys above make it seem - particularly considering the roasting the INS got following issuing confirmation of the student visas to a couple of the Sept 11 hijackers months after they no longer needed them.

There are limits to the no of visas the INS issue each year and they are split between various categories. My dad because I have US citizenship was Category 1 and got his immediately - however, my stepmother who is category 2A applying as a spouse of a US resident (not citizen big difference) is still waiting for confirmation of when she is going to get (note not actually get) her Visa 2 and a half years down the line. This has not been helped in that a year or so ago the INS declared an amnesty on illegal immigrants.

The Visas for the amnesty weren't an extra allocation, but they used the ones from the normal allocation - so those people who had applied were pushed back (basically if my step-mother had overstayed the visitors visa she currently uses then she'd be legally resident by now!).

There are a few categories which fall out of the normal visa allocation (I think they both do) is through qualification - where the US has a chronic shortfall of a particualar category of employees those with the relevant qualifactions can obtain visas quickly. Also if your employer applies for the visa - however, I think with this route they have to show that there is no US citizen qualified to do the job.

Hope this helps.

Val

Scott
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posted 06-18-2002 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott   Click Here to Email Scott     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you have a degree, in Texas they have relaxed the rules so that you can go ahead and teach in the public schools even with no experience. You just teach in the day and take the education certification classes at night. The man who lives across the street from us is a long time high school teacher and confirmed this for me. It's my back-up in case I'm laid off (I'm in the oil biz).

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posted 06-19-2002 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WAWalsh   Click Here to Email WAWalsh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Teaching is not quite to the point were all you need is a degree and a pulse. Most of the comments, so far, have focused on teaching in public schools. Most states still require certification and, in New York, efforts to gain a masters. Even in cities or states were the requirements have been relaxed, other standards continue to exist.

The one exception to this is private schools. Typically, I believe, private schools are exempt from state certification requirements. Of course, these teachers also fail to get the various union-driven benefits(eg, in New York, tenure after three years). I am sure there is a board somewhere that posts job openings specific to private schools. You may, however, need to expand your parameters. Not many schools are large enough to hire a teacher dedicated to drama. An English teacher who is willing to also teach a semester course in drama as well as take on the responsibility for the fall play and spring musical would be an asset.

As to imigration issues, best bet is to go to the local embassy and get all of the necessary forms and booklets.

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