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Ed beck
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posted 02-12-2001 06:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ed beck   Click Here to Email Ed beck     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
" Friends! Romans! And all of you wonderfull people who Collect Space! (As opposed to just takeing up space ). Lend me your posts!
We have gathered together today not to bury Neil Armstrong! But, to praise him! "

I want to conduct an expirament. I have geniunly heard alot of carping about Mr. Armstrong being rude to people who ask for autographs, for a picture with him, or even just to shake his hand, at least some of which is true. He is after all not perfect, and is entittled to a bad day just like the rest of us. This is not news to me, I have heard about this through the years from different people, and places, not just here on Collect Space.

But, I want to be fair. Perhaps there is a good side to Neil Armstrong that I have not heard much of. So belly up to bar gang and let us toast our first man to walk on the Moon.

Please lets have no negative comments. I am looking for nice, kind, gracious encounters that happened in person, through the mail, on the phone, chance encounters, good stories that happened to someone else is OK as well.

I genuinly want to hear about the good times only here please. I have heard enough of the bad. I want to be able to change my mind about him. So I look forward to your reponces.
Ed

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" I collect space, in order to fill the space between my ears."
ME

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bruce
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posted 02-12-2001 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bruce   Click Here to Email bruce     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ed,

About 20 years ago, I sent my Apollo 11 crew photo to Buzz Aldrin with a request that he sign the photo "to Bruce". Dr. Aldrin signed the photo in his hand but left off the inscription, but hey, I was still pretty darn happy just to have his autograph.

Shortly thereafter, I sent the photo to Neil Armstrong with the same request for the inscription. Not only did Mr. Armstrong sign the photo "to Bruce" but he added an additional "to Bruce" over Dr. Aldrin's name! I thought that was very nice of him.

So now I guess my signed "11" photo is somewhat unique (at least to me) and I was/am very grateful for this thoughful gesture on his part.

Bruce

Mike Clennon
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posted 02-12-2001 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Clennon   Click Here to Email Mike Clennon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He's a real hero and a snappy dresser!

collshubby
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posted 02-12-2001 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for collshubby   Click Here to Email collshubby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I never had any personal or thorugh-the-mail experience with Mr. Armstrong, but I do know he has signed tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of autographs over a 30 year period. I guess he just got tierd, and I don't blame him. Some of us just have to accept we missed out, and we have to get his autograph the hard way...shelling out $1200! But hey, I don't blame the man. He is still a hero to me!

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cfreeze79
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posted 02-12-2001 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cfreeze79   Click Here to Email cfreeze79     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I live in the San Francisco bay area, and I hope to obtain his autograph on Wednesday night (I've got school tomorrow and Thursday). I know I should provide my our picture (of him, no doubt). Any other tips on how to approach the man? I'm fairly young (about the only asset I have)...

Help! I don't want to pay $1000 (however, it is worth it I suppose).

Advice, please... -CF

bruce
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posted 02-12-2001 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bruce   Click Here to Email bruce     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
CF,

I believe both youth and total sincerity might have a lot going for you with Mr. Armstrong. In fact, young people seem to "bring him out" if that's possible for someone who is generally very stoic and (can be) a total tech-head when talking about space and flying to large groups. Sometimes he also appears to be very nervous and awkward when speaking in public.

At an appearance at the Naval Academy Museum with some of the other space race greats back in 1997, a 12 year old boy asked him, for what must have been the 5 millionth time, "What was it like to walk on the moon?" Mr. Armstrong acually got this kid-like expression on his face, paused for a moment and then said "You would really like it!" and then he giggled! Those in attendance were delighted at his answer.

I hope you can locate a good photo to take along with you before your (hopeful) encounter. Be sure to bring a new blue fine point Sharpie pen too! Please post your story here after Wednesday. Good luck to you!

Bruce

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Hello All... Any of you who have read any of my posts here in which Neil Armstrong is mentioned know of my total support for him as a man, a superb pilot and engineer of consumate skill !! The burden and honor that fame has bestowed upon this man is something that most of us can only imagine. The pressure must be crushing.I have not a clue how he has dealt with the fame the Apollo 11 mission brought. He is a fantastic pilot that loves to fly ! The Apollo 11 mission to him was a test pilot's dream.... that particular test flight just happened to culminate with the first Moon landing.
I have had several encounters via mail, in person and by telephone. All great encounters. I know that he responds to true sincerity and knows it when he hears it. A one on one situation with Neil is one I have been blessed with more than once and I personally found him gracious and attentive.I have heard it said that if you wish to talk about golf, his family or test flying that you have an audience. Once the word "MOON" comes up..it's over !
Personally, I would much rather talk to him about piloting the monster called X-15 than his first step on the Moon. He is a quiet, reserved man and that is his right and God bless him for it !!
I have his senior yearbook from high school and the description next to his senior picture pretty much sums it up !! Next to his senior pic it says ... "He Thinks...He Acts...Tis Done " !! End of story ! A man that gets the job done in his quiet way. America is blessed to have such a man as a favorite son ! He is not a puppet or performer sent to amuse us... he is a family man, a great pilot and engineer that served his country well in peace and in war (Korea) and always gets the job done! ... Donald Brady

Ed beck
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posted 02-12-2001 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ed beck   Click Here to Email Ed beck     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK! This is good. But, lets keep the ball rolling. Somehow I don't believe I am the only one who has heard bad things about Neil. It is nice to hear some good reports for a change. Keep them rolling. I think I feel a change of mind comming on.
Ed

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cfreeze79
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posted 02-13-2001 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cfreeze79   Click Here to Email cfreeze79     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, the seminar is tonight (ticket in-hand)... No oppurinity for one-on-one questions, and no autograph time is scheduled... What is the best way to swing an autograph, follow the rules, and NOT seem like a stalker / autograph-hound?

Also, where is a good best to download high-quality astronaut portaits? I can't find anything good on any of the NASA sites (However, I do have a photo-quality printer).

Help! -CF

Jacqueline
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posted 02-13-2001 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jacqueline   Click Here to Email Jacqueline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
CF

Good luck. I wish I were in your shoes. Can't wait to read what happened. Fingers crossed!!

Jacqueline

astronut
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posted 02-13-2001 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astronut   Click Here to Email astronut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
CF,
If I'd had enough lead time I'd have given you a couple of great photos for you to try to get signed.

GOOD LUCK!
Wayne

bruce
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posted 02-13-2001 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bruce   Click Here to Email bruce     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
CF,

If you still have time, click on this link: http://images.jsc.nasa.gov/iams/html/pao/searchpao.htm , type in Neil Armstrong, click on a photo, print that puppy off and head on down to the event.

Like Wayne, if I have known you needed an Armstrong photo, I would have over-nighted you one for free.

Good luck!

Bruce

cfreeze79
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posted 02-14-2001 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cfreeze79   Click Here to Email cfreeze79     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, in short... I struck out... "Negitive Impact..." whatever the jargon.

However, the man is absolutely GREAT in person. If you are ever blessed with the chance, I highly recommend.

He is a little bit awkward behind the lecturn, but a dyamnite story-teller... I really wished I had got my questions answered (relating to the X-15, as well as off-NASA topics), but such is life.

He has all ten of his fingers, he loves Tang, and knows no one by the name of "Mr. Goresky." His thoughts, going down the ladder of Apollo 11 for the first time were "Please don't let me foul this up," and he thinks we must continue our space agenda all the way to Mars and beyond!

I'd like to send him a letter thanking him. Does anyone have current point-of-contact address for him? I would have truly loved to have a minute of his time.

Thanks for all the advice... I'll try again with John Glenn here in a few weeks.

-Christopher L. Freeze
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Ed beck
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posted 02-14-2001 12:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ed beck   Click Here to Email Ed beck     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As the mad scientist who is conducting this little expirament, I hate to say it, but we are starting to get off topic here. How ever, I do want to wish you well CF. And please let us know what happened, as that could put us nicely back on topic. Especially if you have a happy tale to tell.
Ed

PS; For some reason when I posted this message, the post from cfreeze79 was not part of the thread. And now I see it in ahead of me. Sorry I didn't see it because it did get us back on track. Sorry also that you didn't get your autograph, but even so you still seemed to have a good expiriance.
Hmmm... maybe Mr Armstrong is not so bad after all. I am at least on the fence now. Lets keep the posts comming, who knows I may yet become a fan.
Ed ------------------
" I collect space, in order to fill the space between my ears."
ME

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WAWalsh
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posted 02-14-2001 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WAWalsh   Click Here to Email WAWalsh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ed, this posting stream has bothered me from the outset. It comes across as "Prove to me that Neil Armstrong is not a mean, nasty, so-and-so." Quiet honestly, the vast majority of comments on this site and otherwise which I have seen or heard simply confirm Neil Armstrong as an outstanding individual. While his recent no autographs policy might be frustrating (why did I never get around to asking for one over the past 30 years), nothing justifies potshots. Judged on his accomplishments, he is a man worthy of respect.

Ed beck
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posted 02-14-2001 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ed beck   Click Here to Email Ed beck     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear WAWalsh,
Guilty as charged. You are quite correct. That is the purpose of this inquiery. I have heard from many news sources, and space related magazines over the years, not just on collect space that Neil Armstrong does leave something to be desired as the Man for the job of being the first to walk on the moon. Because others went and did perform a lunar landing, and came back still very nice people, I thought that Mr. Armstrong could just as easily have been just as nice. I have heard more that he has not been so nice for many years to the people who follow spaceflight pioneers. How ever, I am willing to admit that I could have somehow missed all of those possitive encounters. That is exactly why I started this post. I really do want to hear about all of the good that I must have missed.
If this offends you, I am sorry. It is not my intention to do so. I do appreciate your remarks. And I have started to see the bright side of Neil Armstrong. But, I am over coming an oppinion that has been 30 years in the making. I could have just gone on thinking that he was a jerk. Give me a little credit for at least being willing to see the other side of the story.
Ed

PS; Since when is looking for good reports on an individual considered as taking pot shots?

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" I collect space, in order to fill the space between my ears."
ME

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Pad39A
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posted 02-15-2001 05:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pad39A   Click Here to Email Pad39A     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had the wonderful opportunity to spend several private hours with him and the AP11 crew on their 30th anniversary. Mr Armstrong was friendly, gracious, intellegent and warm-- and wanting to talk about almost anything but himself. Some might say he was quiet, but I think he simply has genuine humility and did not want the room to revolve around him. Leslie

Ed beck
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posted 02-15-2001 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ed beck   Click Here to Email Ed beck     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank You Leslie. That is exactly what I wanted to see. I really was not trying to be mean spirited at all when I started this post. I wanted to keep it light,
a little toung in cheek, nothing heavy.
I have had some time to reflect on how I perceive Neil Armstrong, and I have to admit that I have heard very little negative about him in the past couple of years. I guess that first impressions do color how you look at some one, so it is easy to see the bad side, when that was what I based my first impression on. I am not quite ready to cannonise him as St. Neil yet. But, I do think I can start out on an even keel, and see where we go from here.
Ed

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" I collect space, in order to fill the space between my ears."
ME

Philip
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posted 02-15-2001 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Was Mr Neil ARMSTRONG ever in the Military as a pilot or did he start to fly in the X-15 program as a civilian ? Thanks - Spasiba!

cfreeze79
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posted 02-16-2001 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cfreeze79   Click Here to Email cfreeze79     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, he flew 87 combat missions for the Navy during Korea. After the war, he went back to college, finished his dergee, and joined NACA (the fore-runner of NASA).

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