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posted 08-10-2011 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for osizz   Click Here to Email osizz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If something had happened on 17 that had not allowed a landing (I'm thinking an equipment failure, though not one endangering the lives of the crew), is there a chance NASA would have pushed to use what is now just museum hardware for one final landing? Or would the Apollo program just have ended on a sour note?

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posted 08-10-2011 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blackarrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The world of Apollo would have ended "not with a bang but a whimper."

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posted 08-10-2011 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tfrielin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There were tw0 Saturn Vs available and a couple of CSMs after Apollo 17.

But there was only one LEM (ok, LM) available — LM-9 which today hangs in the Apollo Saturn V Center at Kennedy Space Center.

The problem with LM-9 is/was it was not a J-mission LEM so had no more than about a 36 hour lunar surface duration a la Apollos 12 and 14.

Would NASA have wanted to execute its final lunar landing mission (Apollo 18 in this scenario) as a step back after the successful three day lunar surface stay times of Apollo 15 and 16?

I doubt it. Even if the money had been there, which it wasn't.

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posted 08-10-2011 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilbasso   Click Here to Email ilbasso     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It wasn't only money. After the close call of Apollo 13, there were many executives in NASA and the administration who felt that we should not take any further chances risking lives on more Moon missions, now that Kennedy's goal had been achieved.

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posted 08-10-2011 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hart Sastrowardoyo   Click Here to Email Hart Sastrowardoyo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Couldn't they finished LM-13, assuming of course they got the money to do so?

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posted 08-11-2011 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fra Mauro   Click Here to Email Fra Mauro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lot of reasons for the answer to the topic to be no — $, political will by the Nixon administration, and a more cautious approach by NASA leadership.

As for LM-13, I'm not sure if the Grumman construction facilities had been shut down. LM-12 had been shipped out months early, and as far as they had been told, it was to be the last LM to be flight ready.

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posted 08-12-2011 06:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Max Q   Click Here to Email Max Q     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder sometimes about the costs involved in the space program. They had launch vehicles available that cost a packet in sure. The had at least 1 LM and some CM's (as I understand), Even returned crews who could have returned with a minimum of training. So it comes down to the cost of labour was it really that prohibitive to finish the completed vehicles.

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posted 08-12-2011 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fra Mauro   Click Here to Email Fra Mauro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know the exact numbers but the cost of manufacturing the hardware was more than the cost of flying it. NASAdidn't save hundreds of millions by not flying Apollos 18,19 and 20.

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