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Paul78zephyr
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posted 07-26-2008 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul78zephyr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The S-IVB ignited twice during a Apollo lunar mission - 1st during the ascent to the parking orbit and then again to send the CSM/LM out of earth orbit. Would it not have been simpler to have designed the S-IC/S-II stages to have been able to achieve the required parking orbit without having to ignite the S-IVB and then used the S-IVB only once (one ignition) to push the stack out of earth orbit? Perhaps a bit larger S-IC/S-II set but a smaller/simpler S-IVB?

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posted 07-26-2008 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LCDR Scott Schneeweis   Click Here to Email LCDR Scott Schneeweis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The whole point of staging is to shed mass and reduce the propellant load required to achieve orbit..the Saturn V would have had to have been much larger to carry the necessary propellant (which would have also either mandated engines with a higher rated ISP then the F-1s could deliver and/or require additional engine(s)) to place the S-IC and or S-II into orbit.

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Mr Meek
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posted 07-26-2008 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mr Meek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Paul78zephyr:
Perhaps a bit larger S-IC/S-II set but a smaller/simpler S-IVB?

A larger S-IC? That's hard to imagine.

If anything, the alternative would be a smaller S-IC, S-II, and S-IV to boost an Earth Departure Stage and the CSM/LM. However, that has its own complexities. MSFC dropped that design in favor of the S-IVB.

The Space Launch Report has an interesting article on the development of the Saturn V. It explains some of the rationale behind the design changes.

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posted 07-26-2008 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LCDR Scott Schneeweis   Click Here to Email LCDR Scott Schneeweis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of course if you just wanna "supersize" then CAPT Truax's 580 foot tall, 80 million pound thrust sea launched Sea Dragon alternative to the Saturn V might have been the way to go...

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