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Topic: A13 CDR Lovell's first words on the Moon
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robsouth Member Posts: 769 From: West Midlands, UK Registered: Jun 2005
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posted 03-20-2007 04:29 PM
Does anyone know what James Lovell's first words on the moon would have been if Apollo 13 had managed a successful landing? Has anyone ever asked him or are they on record anywhere? |
mjanovec Member Posts: 3811 From: Midwest, USA Registered: Jul 2005
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posted 03-20-2007 06:02 PM
If Lovell had some words prepared for the occasion, I sort of suspect he will be keeping them to himself. He doesn't seem like someone who dwells on things that didn't happen.As it stands, his "Houston, we have a problem" quote is probably the second most memorable quote in NASA history... or at least the second most repeated quote today. |
John K. Rochester Member Posts: 1292 From: Rochester, NY, USA Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 03-20-2007 08:34 PM
Jim Lovell was in a Rochester hotel a few years ago for a motivational seminar and right after I watched him be interviewed by one of the local news channels, I was the only one in the lobby with him. After shaking his hand and telling him what an honor it was to meet someone who had contributed so much to the program, I asked him that very question "After Neil's 'One Small Step' and Pete's 'That may have been a small step' what words did you choose to mark the occasion of your first footstep on the moon?"His response was "To be honest, I didn't feel as though the fifth man on the surface's first words were to be noteworthy, so I just was going to get started with the tasks at hand." |
robsouth Member Posts: 769 From: West Midlands, UK Registered: Jun 2005
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posted 03-21-2007 07:42 AM
Good job Dave Scott didn't think the same as Lovell or we would probably not have had, "Man must explore and this is exploration at its greatest". |
mark plas Member Posts: 385 From: the Netherlands Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 03-21-2007 09:44 AM
Well he must have had said something I mean all six commanders made comments making their first steps so i suppose Lovell would have done the same.mark |
derek Member Posts: 297 From: N.Ireland. Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 06-08-2008 07:16 AM
Has anyone here asked Lovell what he'd have said if he HAD landed on the moon? My guess is something like the flight motto: "from the moon, knowledge." |
Jay Chladek Member Posts: 2272 From: Bellevue, NE, USA Registered: Aug 2007
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posted 06-08-2008 06:53 PM
If he had the whit of Conrad, I imagine he would have said:"Hey, I just found Pete Conrad's car keys!"  |
Max Q Member Posts: 399 From: Whyalla South Australia Registered: Mar 2007
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posted 06-08-2008 08:19 PM
I think that was answered earlier in this thread. John K. Rochester did ask him and his responce was "To be honest, I didn't feel as though the fifth man on the surface's first words were to be noteworthy, so I just was going to get started with the tasks at hand."I think after reading his book what ever Jim did say would have been more than a little noteworthy. |
taneal1 Member Posts: 237 From: Orlando, FL Registered: Feb 2004
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posted 06-11-2008 10:16 AM
Lovell's first words on the surface would have been: "I'm sure glad that the O2 tank in the SM didn't explode, or I wouldn't be here right now..." ;-) |
Delta7 Member Posts: 1527 From: Bluffton IN USA Registered: Oct 2007
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posted 06-12-2008 07:28 PM
"That's one small step for me, and no giant Hollywood pay day for some kid in California named Tom Hanks!" |
Max Q Member Posts: 399 From: Whyalla South Australia Registered: Mar 2007
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posted 06-13-2008 01:35 AM
"Houston we have uhh nothing to report" |
VolMan Member Posts: 11 From: Atlanta, GA USA Registered: May 2007
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posted 06-13-2008 09:40 AM
Either during flight preperations and/or the translunar coast, he may have had a rough idea of what he might say. Given the circumstances of the flight, we will probally never know. He might have shared with is wife. My guess; though, is that she never asked him. Why bring up a hurtfull memory.Given his nature, Lovell would have probally said something light rather than mentally heavy, focused, thankful to those who had helped make it happen, quick, with a friendly jab at Pete Conrad. |
Paul78zephyr Member Posts: 678 From: Hudson, MA Registered: Jul 2005
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posted 06-18-2008 11:45 AM
quote: "To be honest, I didn't feel as though the fifth man on the surface's first words were to be noteworthy, so I just was going to get started with the tasks at hand."
I can only speculate, however, perhaps he would not have given that answer if asked in 1971 (and perhaps he was). Considering the eventual heartbreaking outcome of Apollo 13 (in the personal sense that he never got to walk on the moon), and the perspective of several decades I would like to believe that Mr. Lovell's answer to John K. Rochester is a way that he sets things right in his mind and also so as not to detract from the other accomplishments of the program. I personally feel the events and certainly the outcome of Apollo 13 were one of the triumphs of the Apollo program, but in his elegant and humble manner I believe he wishes to somewhat downplay its significance. I truely believe that had Mr. Lovell made that last step off the ladder of Aquarius and put his boot into the lunar dust at Fra Mauro he would have had something important to say - to himself and the world. God Speed Jim Lovell Paul |
cddfspace Member Posts: 609 From: Morris County, NJ, USA Registered: Jan 2006
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posted 06-18-2008 12:05 PM
So, keeping in line with the other thread running about being Deke for a day... What would have happened if Lovell walked into Deke's office after Apollo 13 and said "I still want the moon- get me on the next available mission..." Would/could this have happened? What flight was next that was not named? CDDFSPACE |
Fra Mauro Member Posts: 1624 From: Bethpage, N.Y. Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 06-18-2008 12:10 PM
Hard to say since Lovell was set to retire from flight status. 16 might have been open, 17 hadn't been assigned yet, and until Sept. 1970, 18, 19 and 20 were still on the manifest. It would have been out of character for Lovell to act like that. |
Delta7 Member Posts: 1527 From: Bluffton IN USA Registered: Oct 2007
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posted 06-18-2008 12:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by cddfspace: What would have happend if Lovell walked into Deke's office after Apollo 13 and said "I still want the moon- get me on the next available mission..." Would/could this have happened? What flight was next that was not named?
I believe at the time Apollo 19 hadn't yet been cancelled, so there's a good chance Lovell would have been the choice for Apollo 16 backup CDR/Apollo 19 CDR (Lovell/Swigert/Haise again?).It's also possible that after Apollo 19 was canceled, he could have been assigned to a Skylab mission (although I don't think he would have displaced Conrad), or ASTP. STS-1 is another possibility if he were willing to wait that long for another flight (he was 53 in April 1981). |
robsouth Member Posts: 769 From: West Midlands, UK Registered: Jun 2005
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posted 06-18-2008 04:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by cddfspace: What would have happend if Lovell walked into Deke's office after Apollo 13 and said "I still want the moon- get me on the next available mission..." Would/could this have happened? What flight was next that was not named?
Apollo 14 had been officially named on 6th August 1969 along with their backup crew.Apollo 15 had also been officially named on 26th March 1970 along with their backup crew. If the crew rotation was followed then, Apollo 16 would have been the Apollo 13 back up crew. Apollo 17 would have been the Apollo 14 backup crew. Apollo 18 would have been the Apollo 15 backup crew. Apollo 19 was the next available mission which means that Lovell would have had to be named as Apollo 16 backup commander but Apollo 19 was cancelled before the Apollo 16 crew was announced. Therefore his next chance to fly would have been during Skylab and as mentioned already I can't see Conrad losing his seat. Maybe ASTP could have been an option. |
cddfspace Member Posts: 609 From: Morris County, NJ, USA Registered: Jan 2006
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posted 06-18-2008 07:09 PM
Great info Robsouth! Let's not forget through...Shepard jumped in and bumped a backup commander. It is possible that Lovell could have bumped Young and taken 16 before Young was named. Interesting to think of the possibilities!!! |
Paul78zephyr Member Posts: 678 From: Hudson, MA Registered: Jul 2005
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posted 06-18-2008 07:35 PM
I thought THIS THREAD was about Jim Lovell's 'first words on the moon'. 'Deke for a day' is another thread. Talk about a threadjack!Paul |
robsouth Member Posts: 769 From: West Midlands, UK Registered: Jun 2005
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posted 06-19-2008 03:40 AM
Well getting back to my original question, I have included an example of what Lovell could have said upon stepping onto the moon on this webpage. |
cddfspace Member Posts: 609 From: Morris County, NJ, USA Registered: Jan 2006
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posted 06-19-2008 04:33 PM
Looks like the thread police have busted me... to get it back on track, I bet Lovell's 1st words on the moon would have been "...Thank goodness we did not have a problem Houston, I would hate to have to think about asking for another crew assignment and have to play Deke for a day..." |
Max Q Member Posts: 399 From: Whyalla South Australia Registered: Mar 2007
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posted 06-20-2008 06:02 AM
quote: Originally posted by cddfspace: "...Thank goodness we did not have a problem Houston, I would hate to have to think about asking for another crew assignment and have to play Deke for a day..."
Best try yet. |
Paul78zephyr Member Posts: 678 From: Hudson, MA Registered: Jul 2005
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posted 06-20-2008 08:21 AM
Im sorry to be a wet blanket but all these responses about Mr. Lovell saying somthing silly I think are demeaning to him. From what I have read and seen of him I know he is a light hearted guy. But I still think that claiming he would have said something unprofessional (even if humourous) does not do justice to him.Paul |
Max Q Member Posts: 399 From: Whyalla South Australia Registered: Mar 2007
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posted 06-20-2008 08:26 AM
Point taken but I feel he would have a smile on his face if he was to read this thread. |