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ABDUL
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posted 06-21-2005 07:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ABDUL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What do you think was the best 16mm footage from lunar surface?
  • Apollo 14 flag deploy?
  • Apollo 15 Scott at rover?
  • Apollo 16 grand prix by Young?

Blackarrow
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posted 06-21-2005 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blackarrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would have to say the 16mm film of John Young's "lunar grand prix." It's a perfect example of capturing live-action on film.

Second place must go to the Apollo 14 flag ceremony - great coverage of Shepard and Mitchell.

I would give third place to the Apollo 14 landing film - the exposure is perfect and you get a real sense of the ruggedness of the Fra Mauro region, with Cone Crater and the smaller shadow-filled craters near the landing-site.

The most IMPORTANT 16mm footage must be the Apollo 11 landing film and the sequences showing Armstrong climbing down the ladder and Armstrong and Aldrin putting up the U.S. flag. They lose out a little on aesthetics, but their historic significance can't be surpassed.

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posted 06-22-2005 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for heng44   Click Here to Email heng44     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the Apollo 14 footage of Mitchell coming down the ladder halfway through the EVA is very nice, too...

mark plas
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posted 06-22-2005 02:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark plas   Click Here to Email mark plas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the movie "For All Mankind" there is a piece of 16mm, I believe it's Young dust brushing the rover. I never saw it before or saw it since, not even on my Apollo 16 DVDs.

LM-12
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posted 03-06-2011 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LM-12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like the 16mm footage from Apollo 16 that briefly shows both Young and Duke in front of the lunar rover at Station 8 ... see clip FTV-2376 at footagevault.com

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posted 03-07-2011 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gleopold   Click Here to Email gleopold     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Clip number is FTV-0002376.

stsmithva
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posted 03-07-2011 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stsmithva   Click Here to Email stsmithva     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could someone post links to these specific scenes on websites where one can view NASA footage?

LM-12
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posted 03-07-2011 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LM-12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can find lots of 16mm video clips here.

liftoff1
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posted 03-08-2011 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for liftoff1   Click Here to Email liftoff1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for that link! I've always enjoyed the Apollo 17 lift off from the moon sequence.

mark plas
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posted 03-11-2011 02:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark plas   Click Here to Email mark plas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YouTube: Apollo 16mm HDTV Transfers

Captain Apollo
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posted 03-13-2011 07:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Captain Apollo   Click Here to Email Captain Apollo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At 14.55 in the above Youtube video, is that Neil taking the famous image of Buzz?

randy
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posted 03-13-2011 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for randy   Click Here to Email randy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the best footage, aside from the Apollo 11 footage, is the Shepard golf shot.

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posted 03-15-2011 07:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dwight   Click Here to Email Dwight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my opinion:
  • Best 16mm footage: the flag ceremony from Apollo 14.
  • Best TV footage: the LM launch from Apollo 17
  • Best photograph: Neil Armstrong in the LM after the first lunar EVA.

Space Cadet Carl
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posted 03-16-2011 04:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Space Cadet Carl   Click Here to Email Space Cadet Carl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Through the years, it seems that Apollo 16's "Lunar Grand Prix" 16mm footage gets the most attention, followed by Apollo 14's "Flag Raising Ceremony" filmed in 16mm from the MET rickshaw.

The onboard 16mm shot of someone driving the rover (taken from the right hand rover seat) and panning the movie camera forward comes in third.

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posted 03-16-2011 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for robsouth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The flag raising on Apollo 11.

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posted 04-06-2011 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bernoullis   Click Here to Email bernoullis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"What do you think was the best 16mm footage from lunar surface?"

mark plas
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posted 04-10-2011 04:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark plas   Click Here to Email mark plas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I always loved the 16mm taken from the rover on Apollo 16.

In the documentary "For All Mankind" this piece begins as Charlie Duke tells about a dream he had before the mission. The footage the music and words from Duke makes it something surreal.

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posted 04-24-2011 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bernoullis   Click Here to Email bernoullis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have always loved the Apollo 16 clip taken on the LRV, looking across John Young, at as they head south (following their own tracks, to Shadow rock?) and slowly descending off North Ray crater ridge. It is beautifully sharp and clear, fab lighting, and the reflection in John's gold visor is magnificent.

You can have a look at it on footagevault.com - search for the clip entitled "Apollo 16 Rover Drive (FTV-0002380)."

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posted 05-31-2014 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LM-12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
16mm film footage (from Magazine P) taken from the Apollo 17 LM window shows Gene Cernan shortly after stepping onto the lunar surface. He then walks around the LM and out of view.

A few minutes later there is an astronaut at the MESA. It looks like Jack Schmitt. No red stripes.

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posted 05-02-2015 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LM-12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Found that Apollo 17 16mm film clip mentioned above. Cernan is seen first, and then Schmitt in the last five minutes or so.

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posted 10-22-2017 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LM-12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Retro Space HD has this speed-corrected version of Shepard and Mitchell setting up the flag. There is also a speed-corrected version of Mitchell descending the LM ladder.

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posted 10-23-2017 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for damnyankee36   Click Here to Email damnyankee36     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I never realized that there is no visual documentation of Cernan taking his first steps. Why is that? Was there no camera on the MESA or was it not working?

Were any other first steps on previous missions not recorded?

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posted 10-23-2017 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blackarrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The last astronaut seen descending a lunar module ladder live on TV (for the first time) was Jim Irwin on Apollo 15. On Apollo 16, there was a problem with the LM's high-gain antenna and live TV was not possible until the lunar rover's separate antenna had been set up. On Apollo 17, NASA did not make arrangements for the TV camera to transmit the "first steps." A shame.

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posted 10-23-2017 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LM-12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is some Apollo 16 16mm footage taken from the LMP window of John Young on the LM ladder releasing the MESA, and his first few steps on the lunar surface.

The first imagery of Charlie Duke on the lunar surface appears to be about an hour into EVA-1 when the LRV camera is turned on.

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posted 10-25-2017 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LM-12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bernoullis:
I have always loved the Apollo 16 clip taken on the LRV, looking across John Young
There is a similar Apollo 15 16mm view of Dave Scott on the rover. Jim Irwin, sitting in the right seat, is reflected in Scott's gold visor.

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posted 10-27-2017 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LM-12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LM-12:
I like the 16mm footage from Apollo 16 that briefly shows both Young and Duke in front of the lunar rover at Station 8
We only get both Young and Duke on 16mm at Station 8 because Duke forgot to turn off the DAC before dismounting the rover. The DAC had been filming the traverse from Station 6 to Station 8 on EVA-2.

The rover was moved a short distance at Station 8 to troubleshoot a steering problem. There is DAC footage at both locations.

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posted 11-21-2017 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LM-12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There was no 16mm camera on the lunar rover on Apollo 17. I don't think they even took a DAC outside with them on the EVAs, so the film clip above of Cernan and Schmitt taken from the LM window at the beginning of EVA-1 is probably the only 16mm footage of them walking on the lunar surface.

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posted 11-22-2017 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LM-12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The 16mm camera was filming outside the LM window on Apollo 12 when Conrad and Bean did an RCS hot fire test prior to liftoff. The S-band antenna can be seen knocked over on its side and the thruster firing in the footage.
Conrad: Don't panic. We just blew over our S-band erectable, and we're up on our steerable...

Okay. I gave you an extra pitchup fire because we were photographing the effects on the ground. It's quite spectacular.

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