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Topic: Mercury onboard 16mm footage
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heng44
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posted 05-24-2005 12:33 AM
   
To answer a question in another newsgroup, here are some frame captures of the onboard 16mm footage taken during the manned Mercury missions.
This is Al Shepard.
John Glenn.
This is Scott Carpenter. The pictures are a little grainy because the camera and film had been in the water.
Here we have Wally "are you a turtle" Schirra.
And finally Gordo Cooper. This footage is not often seen. Note that the position of the camera differs from the other missions, or perhaps a wide-angle lens was used.Ed Hengeveld 
(I added Shepard and Glenn to be complete, plus a picture of Cooper's TV-transmission) [This message has been edited by heng44 (edited May 24, 2005).] |
Obviousman
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posted 05-24-2005 02:48 AM
"Are you a turtle"heheheheh
Going private.....
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heng44
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posted 05-24-2005 03:11 AM
You bet your http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v286/heng44/ass.jpg
I am!Ed [This message has been edited by heng44 (edited May 24, 2005).] |
H E Pennypacker
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posted 05-24-2005 04:50 AM
Hi EdIs that a picture of you? If so, please email asap...  Peter [This message has been edited by collectSPACE Admin (edited May 24, 2005).] |
heng44
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posted 05-24-2005 05:03 AM
It isn't even a picture of my wife...Ed PS
This thread is going downhill fast... [This message has been edited by heng44 (edited May 24, 2005).] |
spacecraft films
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From: Columbus, OH USA
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posted 05-24-2005 07:37 AM
As a point of comparison on quality, here are two images of Shepard and Glenn in our new transfer of the Mercury onboards. 
 And two shots with their visors up. 
 Working dilligently in Mercury-land... Best,
Mark [This message has been edited by spacecraft films (edited May 24, 2005).] |
taneal1
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From: Orlando, FL
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posted 05-24-2005 09:35 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by spacecraft films:
[B]As a point of comparison on quality, here are two images of Shepard and Glenn in our new transfer of the Mercury onboards.Hi Mark, Great shots! Can you post these somewhere as full-size frames for a better comparison?Hard to tell how much of an improvement they are at their current size. Thanks, Tom [This message has been edited by taneal1 (edited May 24, 2005).] |
ejectr
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posted 05-24-2005 09:54 AM
Man....that is one heck of an improvement!Nice pictures. |
KC Stoever
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posted 05-24-2005 10:38 AM
Wow! I have no words . . .Kris |
heng44
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posted 05-24-2005 10:39 AM
The Shepard photo is a good comparison, even at this small size. To be fair: my frames come from a fifth-generation videotape... Mark has them directly from the source!Ed
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spacecraft films
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From: Columbus, OH USA
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posted 05-24-2005 11:00 AM
I kept them the same size specifically so they could be compared.I've placed a full rez here: (if it will work)  This transfer was made last fall from the original 16mm film. The Mercury and Gemini onboard film now resides at the National Archives. (Apollo is still in Houston)... Mark |
Matt T
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posted 05-24-2005 11:28 AM
Now the big question is what could Mark do with Ed's ass?  Cheers,
Matt ------------------
www.spaceracemuseum.com |
ejectr
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From: Killingly, CT
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posted 05-24-2005 01:32 PM
Wow...you can see the reflection out the window in Glenn's visor.What a sight that must have been. Ahh the romance of Project Mercury. This picture says it all. |
OPOS
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From: Inverness, FL
Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 05-24-2005 11:14 PM
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Originally posted by ejectr:
Ahh the romance of Project Mercury. This picture says it all.
Amen |
heng44
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From: Netherlands
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posted 05-26-2005 12:15 AM
Question for Kris Stoever: I wrote in the first post that Carpenter's camera had been in the water. I remember reading that somewhere, but can't remember where. Can you confirm this?Ed Hengeveld |
#204
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posted 05-26-2005 01:16 PM
Excellent stills!!! Do you have the one of CARPENTER knocking on the wall of the spacecraft for fireflies?
GRISSOM'S film is inside...
[This message has been edited by #204 (edited May 27, 2005).] |
KC Stoever
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posted 05-26-2005 03:53 PM
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Question for Kris Stoever: I wrote in the first post that Carpenter's camera had been in the water.
I saw that, Ed, and you are quite right. Carpenter was dunked during recovery by accident. The winch reversed direction or the helicopter dipped. No one knows. But Carpenter, holding his precious camera/film in one hand high above the waves, was dunked totally beneath the water and then some--the length of his upraised arm holding the camera. Hence the water damage to the film. |
spacecraft films
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posted 05-26-2005 07:05 PM
I don't have that film loaded right now, but by golly I think I have that in the recovery coverage. This is one of the most enjoyable sets I have ever worked on.... and I can't wait to get it done... and don't want to finish it... It's like reading a great book and wanting to get to the end... but not wanting to get to the end... Mark |
bruce
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posted 05-26-2005 07:26 PM
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It's like reading a great book and wanting to get to the end... but not wanting to get to the end...Mark
I felt the same way as I was reading "For Spacious Skies". Best,
Bruce |
heng44
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posted 05-27-2005 03:57 AM
I found the reference I was referring to! And thanks for the reply, Kris.The caption of NASA photo 62-MA7-168 (an onboard view of Carpenter) states:
"These pictures were taken with a Milliken 16mm camera using ER film. The grain in the picture is due to the camera getting wet. To keep the film in condition for processing the camera was placed in water to keep film from drying, making it impossible to use. Complete engineering data was obtained from this film, even though the quality was not
good." Ed Hengeveld
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Scott
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From: Houston, TX
Registered: May 2001
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posted 05-27-2005 08:48 AM
quote:
Originally posted by spacecraft films:
I kept them the same size specifically so they could be compared.I've placed a full rez here: (if it will work)
http://www.spacecraftfilms.com/GLENNFULL.jpg Mark
Oh man that is beautiful, Mark. Can't wait to get that when it comes out.
And Ed - I thought you specialized only in Apollo "moon" photos. Please send the link to your newer site. <LOL>
[This message has been edited by Scott (edited May 27, 2005).] |
heng44
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posted 05-27-2005 09:27 AM
Touché, Scott.Ed |
Hawkman
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posted 05-27-2005 09:57 AM
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Originally posted by KC Stoever:
Wow! I have no words . . .Kris
"Wow" may be the only word available!! I SOOoooooo can not wait for this set!!! I'll be 10 years old again in 1967 playing with my G.I Joe Mercury capsule pretending that I was one of the Original Seven!  Gene |
taneal1
Member Posts: 237
From: Orlando, FL
Registered: Feb 2004
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posted 05-27-2005 12:35 PM
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Originally posted by spacecraft films:
I kept them the same size specifically so they could be compared.I've placed a full rez here: (if it will work)
It works! Outstanding. I wanted to see it full size to compare it to the 8x10 NASA photos. Any chance you could also post the Shepard visor down shot as well in full-size?Thanks, Tom |
KC Stoever
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From: Denver, CO USA
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posted 05-27-2005 03:19 PM
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I'll be 10 years old again in 1967 playing with my G.I. Joe Mercury capsule pretending that I was one of the Original Seven!
Gene, For perhaps the finest evocation of this type of spaceflight play, ca 1963, please check out from the library Thomas Mallon's novel, Aurora 7. It's about the adventures of a starstruck Long Island kid named Gregory, on 24 May 1962. A wonderful book. [This message has been edited by KC Stoever (edited May 27, 2005).] |
robertsconley
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From: Meadville, PA
Registered: Jun 2005
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posted 06-06-2005 08:33 PM
This is cool, I can double check my Mercury Sim for Orbiter.Rob Conley
http://www.orbitersim.com http://www.ibiblio.org/mscorbit |
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