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hbw60
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posted 04-23-2022 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hbw60   Click Here to Email hbw60     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Last week, I won an RR Auction lot for a name tag purportedly worn by Christa McAuliffe. After winning the auction, I tried to find a photo which would work well alongside it on display. However, every single photo I've found has a different style. They simply say "Christa" or "Christa McAuliffe". I cannot find a single photo with a tag like the one I purchased:

This isn't the first time this has happened to me. On Heritage a few years ago, I won a set of Apollo-era name tags that don't match any tags I've ever seen, among hundreds of photos. So this leads me to two questions:

  1. Does anyone happen to know anything about this style of tag? If a photo exists of Christa with a similar tag, I would be so grateful for a link to it.

  2. Is it wrong to blindly trust these auction houses?

    I'm sure they get it right most of the time. But things like this make me wonder. If someone on eBay was selling this tag, saying it was obtained from a friend who knew Christa and received it as a gift from her, I'd be skeptical. But if RR offers the same item with the same story, I'm willing to bid. And that is starting to feel less sensible.

    I feel like I could buy a replica tag, scrape it up a bit, and consign it to a major auction house with a story about how my grandfather worked at NASA. And they wouldn't be able to verify it either way.

    Would it be better to avoid things that don't come with direct provenance to verifiable participants of the space program?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 04-23-2022 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The closest I can find is in photo S85-41443, which may show a similar style name tag being worn by pilot Michael Smith. Unfortunately, it is not a clear shot of the tag.

I wonder about the formatting of the McAuliffe tag. Given that they are using her initial (which is an abbreviation for her maiden name), I would have expected the use of her full name ("S. Christa C. McAuliffe").

Also, her role on the crew was payload specialist, not civilian, but I haven't looked at other payload specialists' name tags to see how they were titled.

On edit: While trying to find an similar example for another payload specialist, I came across another similar name tag — Ellison Onizuka's, as displayed within the Forever Remembered exhibit at the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex:

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posted 04-24-2022 01:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hbw60   Click Here to Email hbw60     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much for your help, Robert! It's very kind of you, and I appreciate your time.

The Onizuka tag lists his Air Force credentials, not his Mission Specialist title. So that would line up with the McAuliffe tag listing her civilian status rather than her Payload Specialist title. In addition, I found photos of McNair and Resnik with similar styles. McNair has the same NASA wings on his badge:

However, both the McNair and the Onizuka badges have very obvious stitching along the border. The McAuliffe badge does not. And the font seems different as well. So that worries me.

From a certain point of view, I suppose the lack of photographic evidence for this badge can be seen as (an admittedly weak) form of evidence for authenticity. If someone wanted to make a fake badge, they'd presumably refer to a photo for reference. And every photo of her seems to have a basic name tag, which would actually be easier to forge. So it'd be strange for someone to take the time to make a complicated replica of a badge she never wore, rather than the simple one that she did.

Perhaps this style of badge was made for the initial round of applicants for the Teacher in Space program. And then once Christa and Barbara were selected to continue, those two received the updated versions we see in the photos.

But personally, I never like to make assumptions. I don't find joy in buying artifacts/autographs that are "probably" real. If I can't be fairly certain that an item is authentic, then I only feel doubt when I look at it. So hopefully someone out there has a photo with this style of badge.

oly
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posted 04-24-2022 04:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for oly   Click Here to Email oly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One visible difference is that the wings emblem differs in your example from ones of other astronauts, is that yours has more solid color, whereas other examples are more of an outline style.

Also, if you zoom into the image of yours, it looks as if someone has randomly scratched out the center of the NASA logo. It does not appear to be a wear mark.

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posted 04-24-2022 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 328KF   Click Here to Email 328KF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It seems the nametag is similar in some ways to those worn by other astronauts, yet different in others, like the lack of stitching.

In addition to the other comments, the amount of wear to the tag doesn’t add up for someone who was only associated with NASA for a few months. Now it’s possible that it was obtained from her and worn by someone else for some time, but that should be part of the back story.

cosmos-walter
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posted 04-24-2022 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cosmos-walter   Click Here to Email cosmos-walter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did you alredy try to ask Barbara Morgan?

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posted 04-24-2022 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hbw60   Click Here to Email hbw60     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much for your help, everyone! It is such a pleasure to be part of this helpful and supportive community. Your assessments and research into this are greatly appreciated.

I haven't tried contacting Barbara Morgan. I don't know of any contact information for her, and I don't know if she's even amenable to these sorts of questions. If anyone happens to know, that would be great. If anyone were to have a photo (or a similar badge for reference), it'd be her.

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posted 04-24-2022 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Barbara Morgan is scheduled to be the astronaut guest at the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex from May 3 to May 6.

You could try reaching out to the visitor complex staff to pass along the question to her or perhaps a local cS member can go and ask on your behalf.

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