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randyc
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posted 02-19-2021 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for randyc   Click Here to Email randyc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I noticed that there's an Apollo 16 insurance cover in the American Space Museum auction tomorrow, and I'm interested in hearing from fellow space cover collectors regarding the value of this cover.

The reason I ask is that it's cancelled on April 27, 1972, the day Apollo 16 splashed down. The majority of the Apollo 16 insurance covers were cancelled on the day of launch, with a smaller number cancelled for the moon landing on April 20, 1972 and the splashdown on April 27, 1972.

Are "insurance covers" cancelled on days other than the launch, and especially ones cancelled on the day of splashdown, as valuable as the covers cancelled on the day of launch? Specifically, how valuable are the "insurance covers" cancelled on the day of splashdown?

My personal opinion is that covers cancelled on the day of splashdown are less valuable (much less valuable?) than covers cancelled on the day of launch, even though there are less of them.

Why? Because when the covers were cancelled on the day of launch they were truly "insurance covers" because at that time there was no guarantee that the crew would return safely to Earth. However, once the crew safely splashed down, there was no doubt that the crew would return safely. Their purpose as "insurance covers" no longer applied.

That being said, they were signed before the launch, so they did start as "insurance covers," but when they were cancelled on the day of splashdown they "lost" that distinction.

I'm not saying that they are not collectible, but how do they compare, value-wise, to an insurance cover cancelled on the day of launch?

Ken Havekotte
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posted 02-19-2021 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A very small number of some insurance covers, Randy, were posted on lunar landing and splashdown dates that actually started with the Apollo 11 Type 1 variety.

Concerning the insurance cover referred to here, more information had been provided for its lot description (See Lot 225).

Apollo insurance cover producer and close friend to the Apollo flight crews, Al Bishop, had prepared a limited number of crewmen covers for moon landing and recovery dates. Bishop had been gifted by the crew some of the covers himself after they had been signed while the crew were in isolation at crew quarters before their lunar launch.

Their production, preparation, signing of, and crew gifted by Bishop for such insurance purposes — in my opinion — meets the overall requirements of an original crew insurance cover, but of course, they had not been cancelled on launch day, but retained a few days later for two major mission events.

randyc
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posted 02-19-2021 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for randyc   Click Here to Email randyc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
O.K. so they started out as insurance covers and I'm aware that there are Apollo 11 insurance covers cancelled on July 20, 1969 (while there was still the possibility of the crew not returning safely to Earth).

My question is: are insurance covers cancelled on the day of splashdown, when there was no doubt that the crew returned safely, worth as much as covers cancelled on launch day, and even the moon landing day, when there was still the possibility of the crew not returning?

I understand that even Apollo 11 insurance covers cancelled on the date of the moon landing may be as valuable as the insurance covers cancelled on the day of launch, but Apollo 11, being the first lunar landing mission, is a unique circumstance.

randyc
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posted 02-20-2021 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for randyc   Click Here to Email randyc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's another question regarding the Apollo 16 insurance covers: did the Apollo 16 astronaut families only have the covers cancelled on the day of launch, and are the covers cancelled on the other mission days, such as the splashdown date, the ones kept by Al Bishop?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 02-20-2021 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by randyc:
...but how do they compare, value-wise, to an insurance cover cancelled on the day of launch?
Well, to the original question, the cover provided as an example sold today for $2,400 with the buyer's premium.

By comparison, two Apollo 16 insurance covers postmarked for the day of launch sold for $3,750 each in June 2020. (Both were from the collection John Young, so the provenance is a factor, too.)

Other launch day Apollo 16 insurance covers, even examples with Young's certification, have sold for less than $2,400 but date back a number of years.

randyc
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posted 02-21-2021 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for randyc   Click Here to Email randyc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
$2450 is more than the last two Apollo 16 insurance covers, cancelled on the day of launch, sold for in November 2020 ($1500 and $1375). Those covers were not "Certified from John Young's Personal Collection" but did come with a COA from his wife, Suzy Young, stating that they were from his collection.

I did some research and found that Apollo 16 insurance covers cancelled on the launch day and certified from John Young's collection have sold for $2250 to $3750 over the past 7 years. Other than a cover that sold for $3750 in June 2020 (and certified from John Young's collection) most of the higher prices were paid before 2019, and the covers "Certified from John Young's Collection" sold for the higher prices.

My theory why the Apollo 16 insurance cover cancelled on the splashdown date sold for as much as it did is that there are insurance cover collectors that want every insurance cover ever made, including all of the cachets and all of the dates of cancellation. Since there are fewer Apollo 16 insurance covers cancelled on dates other than the launch date the collectors who wanted it bid up the price.

I believe that only the Apollo 16 insurance covers with a launch day cancellation were actually held by the astronaut's family and, as Ken mentions, the Apollo 16 insurance covers cancelled on the other mission dates were held by Al Bishop.

I asked a fellow astrophilatelist his opinion of collecting insurance covers cancelled on dates other than the launch date. He, like myself, believe that if a collector only wanted one insurance cover for a mission it should be cancelled on the day of launch. And those covers actually held by the astronaut's family are the most desirable.

Ken Havekotte
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posted 02-21-2021 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll report more later as I did have a lengthy reply posted last evening, however, I took it down in order to help provide more information that I would need to verify for clarification in some instances.

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