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Author Topic:   122853834166: Apollo 12 insurance cover

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posted 01-08-2018 07:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike_The_First   Click Here to Email Mike_The_First     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's worth pointing out that, with regard to the Apollo 12 cover that started this thread, if we believe the seller's update, then the cover was listed as what they knew it to be.

Before this thread, more than one person knew that Apollo 12 covers with a Bishop cachet that were signed by the crew before launch and postmarked for the launch were insurance covers.

Even now, there are undoubtedly still people out there who know that.

Of course, what those individuals knew/know on the subject was/is incomplete and ultimately inaccurate, but that doesn't change the fact that they knew it.

Knowledge, at its core, is just a belief that you're entirely sure of. What we know isn't necessarily what is. For example, how many people know that astronauts aboard the ISS float because of a lack of gravity? Or that the Coriolis effect causes water in the southern hemisphere to go down the drain "backwards" compared to drains in the northern hemisphere? Or, thanks to the last link and other identical information out there, that drains are too small for the Coriolis effect to have any impact on the water direction? Or any number of other things?

It'd be great if sellers only said what they know about the items they're selling, but that won't cut down on cases like this where there apparently wasn't any malicious intent or necessarily wishful thinking.


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posted 01-08-2018 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chuckster01   Click Here to Email Chuckster01     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But then again the opinion here on collectSPACE may not always be correct either. This of course is why we call them opinions. And these opinions change over the years as either facts, documents or statements are found to debunk the opinions we had. Example:

I will always believe my Apollo 17 flag carried on both America and Challenger was flown to the surface of the moon. The consensus here was it did not and none did. But I have seen to many examples listed by NASA as flown to Taurus–Littrow and at least one signed by Cernan as flown to the lunar surface.

As none of us were there on the missions or with them during training, we are all speculating and most of the times the opinions here make perfect sense and I can go along with common sense thinking and logic. But the opinions here do not always jive with what can be researched as historically documented and when that happens the general rule of thumb is to say the people who were there and were involved have bad memories or they were too busy to pay attention.

Some things we will never know as the astronauts are no longer with us and there is no one to ask who would know for sure. But then again this is just my opinion.

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