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Cozmosis22
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posted 06-03-2017 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cozmosis22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Am guessing that these various Lifting Body and other aircraft research flight covers from the 70s were not actually signed by the pilots. Any thoughts?

Apollo-Soyuz
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posted 06-03-2017 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apollo-Soyuz   Click Here to Email Apollo-Soyuz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All the signatures look good to me especially the Fitz Fulton signature. The Ken Mattingly looks like a common autopen.

bobslittlebro
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posted 06-03-2017 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bobslittlebro   Click Here to Email bobslittlebro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree the Ken Mattingly being an autopen. I don't like the Bill Dana autograph. None of my Bill Dana autographs look like the one shown.

Cozmosis22
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posted 06-03-2017 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cozmosis22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the replies. That HL-10 may be one of those local Boy Scouts cache covers where they wrote in the pilot's name after the event.

NAAmodel#240
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posted 06-03-2017 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NAAmodel#240   Click Here to Email NAAmodel#240     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also believe the Dana was written by someone else. On many test pilot covers names were written to identify the pilot without any attempt to deceive.

Mike_The_First
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posted 06-03-2017 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike_The_First   Click Here to Email Mike_The_First     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some were written just for identification purposes.

Others, as came up here last month, were written in a slightly more "confusing" (for lack of a better term) manner with a more questionable intent beyond simply identifying the pilot.

That being said, if that Dana is supposed to be an unauthorized secretarial, it's a terrible one. It's more likely that it was just written in cursive for the purpose of writing it in cursive, like you said.

The others all have the names stamped, so the signatures were most likely not added by the servicer (at least not as part of their standard duties). Once they started stamping, there was no need to hand-write the names, in any style.

eurospace
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posted 06-07-2017 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for eurospace   Click Here to Email eurospace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would also give a green light to the covers with Fulton, Manke, Powell, Enevoldsen. Mattingly is autopen, as mentioned earlier.

Dana looks unusual, but it might be worth comparing early Dana signatures from this period.

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