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  Yuri Gagarin autographed cover: real or fake?

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Henk Boshuijer
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posted 06-08-2015 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Henk Boshuijer   Click Here to Email Henk Boshuijer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A few weeks ago I was able to buy a First Day Cover with the autograph of Yuri Gagarin for a cheap price. I know that there a many forgeries so I am not sure this one is the real thing... Opinions anyone?

Steve Zarelli
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posted 06-08-2015 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steve Zarelli   Click Here to Email Steve Zarelli     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Absolutely no chance it is authentic. If you can't get a refund, burn it.

Sorry.

ColinBurgess
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posted 06-08-2015 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ColinBurgess   Click Here to Email ColinBurgess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A very bad forgery.

Austronaut
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posted 06-09-2015 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Austronaut   Click Here to Email Austronaut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about with this signature?

MIsterTrunk
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posted 06-11-2015 03:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MIsterTrunk   Click Here to Email MIsterTrunk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it's a forgery.

That was my initial thought.

After studying for a while I have doubts now. It seemed shaky to me to the end of the signature...and considering the amount of really good forgeries on Gagarin- I would personally avoid this one. But it actually might be good in my opinion.

spaceflori
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posted 06-11-2015 11:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaceflori   Click Here to Email spaceflori     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Suriname cover is a fake in my opinion but the Austrian cachet cover mentioned later is good in my opinion.

Daniel Lazecky
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posted 06-15-2015 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daniel Lazecky   Click Here to Email Daniel Lazecky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From my collection. Gagarin from different periods as well: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4

MIsterTrunk
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posted 06-15-2015 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MIsterTrunk   Click Here to Email MIsterTrunk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Daniel, where did you get no. 2?

Daniel Lazecky
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posted 06-15-2015 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daniel Lazecky   Click Here to Email Daniel Lazecky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From my Russian friend, Gorod Tula.

MIsterTrunk
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posted 06-15-2015 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MIsterTrunk   Click Here to Email MIsterTrunk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm asking beacuse that looks like "maksuta" forgery to me. Just my opinion.

Daniel Lazecky
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posted 06-15-2015 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daniel Lazecky   Click Here to Email Daniel Lazecky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NO! A gift from a friend, who unfortunately has died too. Vadim Moltkhanov. This material I got from him was not yet Internet.

Wehaveliftoff
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posted 06-18-2015 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wehaveliftoff   Click Here to Email Wehaveliftoff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MisterTrunk, no. 2 looks beautiful, whatever were you thinking?

fredtrav
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posted 06-18-2015 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fredtrav   Click Here to Email fredtrav     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have to agree with MisterTrunk.

Daniel Lazecky
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posted 06-19-2015 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daniel Lazecky   Click Here to Email Daniel Lazecky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I did not invent it! Vadim Moltchanov was my great friend. This is the story of autographs. If you think you have, then nobody takes you to your opinion as well.

MIsterTrunk
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posted 06-19-2015 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MIsterTrunk   Click Here to Email MIsterTrunk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nobody is saying that you are the forger. This is the collector forum and I guess everyone has a right to give an opinion on the items he knows. The style of the autographs is very close to the forger's style mentioned above who has been in market for at least 15 years or so. If your friend didn't obtained the autographs in person then he more likely bought them from someone beleiving that the autographs were genuine.

fredtrav
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posted 06-19-2015 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fredtrav   Click Here to Email fredtrav     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Daniel, no one is accusing you of forging this item, nor your friend. Unfortunately, the aforementioned dealer had been turning out these Gagarins by the thousands fooling many collectors.

I am not an expert by any means, I do not even have a real one myself. I have been fooled by this style of forgery in the past, though I have not lost any money on them.

Daniel Lazecky
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posted 06-21-2015 05:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daniel Lazecky   Click Here to Email Daniel Lazecky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice day. Discussed autograph, which is located in my collection. I checked my records. My colleague Vadim gift sent as the screening. He comes from 1986.

hoorenz
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posted 06-21-2015 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hoorenz   Click Here to Email hoorenz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The late Vadim Molchanov from Tula had personal contacts with many cosmonauts and he was a frequent visitor of Star City. He died 20 years ago. There is no need to have any doubts about where he obtained his autographs.

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