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MrSpace86
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posted 03-18-2014 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrSpace86   Click Here to Email MrSpace86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was at Planet Comicon this past weekend in Kansas City and ran into this:

Did I pass up on a really good deal?! I don't think I did. I thought Neil didn't sign baseballs often, much less in red. Any thoughts?

Also, I ran into fellow cS member Pat (DC Giants). It was so crazy I completely forgot about taking him to see these baseballs.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 03-18-2014 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my opinion, you were wise to keep your money in your wallet.

MrSpace86
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posted 03-18-2014 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrSpace86   Click Here to Email MrSpace86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awesome. Thanks Robert!!

vidoz
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posted 03-18-2014 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vidoz   Click Here to Email vidoz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole!

rgarner
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posted 03-18-2014 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rgarner   Click Here to Email rgarner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The price alone would have raised my eyebrows, but those have to be some of the finest examples that belong in the Hall of Shame.

Rob Joyner
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posted 03-20-2014 12:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rob Joyner   Click Here to Email Rob Joyner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only autographs I have are on flat surfaces. While I have no opinion on the items here, they do at least resemble the real thing. A question: How much difference is there usually with an autograph signed on a photo versus one signed on a small round object like a baseball? There must be a few differences in that the person signing would be doing so while the signing hand is holding the pen differently than if signing on a flat surface.

garymilgrom
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posted 03-20-2014 06:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for garymilgrom   Click Here to Email garymilgrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Regardless of the authenticity I have never understood the attraction of any type of ball signed by someone who did not play that sport. A baseball signed by a hockey player would be bad enough, but astronaut signed makes no sense at all. What's the connection?

On Edit: Thanks Robert for the explanation below. That makes sense.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 03-20-2014 06:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
America. As it's been explained to me by those who collect signed baseballs, they see the ball as a symbol of the United States (baseball being "America's pastime").

Thus, having politicians, astronauts and other U.S. figures sign baseballs is a way to connect them to the country they represent.

Steve Zarelli
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posted 03-20-2014 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steve Zarelli   Click Here to Email Steve Zarelli     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rob Joyner:
How much difference is there usually with an autograph signed on a photo versus one signed on a small round object like a baseball?
It all depends on the signer. In my experience, most seasoned "autographers" have no problems with 3-D objects like balls or models. Shepard was wildly inconsistent on baseballs and I suspect that is due to them being signed at book signings where he was whipping off rushed signatures. Most of the other astronaut signed baseballs are relatively consistent with flat signed signatures.

I would avoid examples that appear too slowly applied or drawn. I review a lot of fake Aldrin signed baseballs.

MrSpace86
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posted 03-20-2014 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrSpace86   Click Here to Email MrSpace86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He had all sorts of baseballs signed by historical people. He had a set of President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden for $1000 (for the pair). Looked legit.

Some of his items looked really authentic but then others looked a little bizarre. I am pretty well versed on Kansas City Royals autographs and he had quite a few and they all looked great.

What about the Buzz Aldrin baseball? Looks alright to me.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 03-20-2014 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My earlier comment applied to both the Armstrong and Aldrin balls.

JasonIUP
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posted 03-20-2014 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JasonIUP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only problem with being wary of slowly-signed Aldrin balls is that he slowly signs them, at least in recent years.

Steve Zarelli
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posted 03-20-2014 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steve Zarelli   Click Here to Email Steve Zarelli     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MrSpace86:
What about the Buzz Aldrin baseball? Looks alright to me.

There is a zero percent chance that Aldrin signed ball is authentic.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 03-20-2014 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JasonIUP:
...at least in recent years.
I would think that any of the baseballs Aldrin has signed in recent years would also have sufficient provenance to prove their authenticity (e.g. pictures of him signing or holding the ball, COA from the dealer who organized the signing and/or receipt from the same, etc.).

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