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moonnut
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posted 02-15-2014 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonnut   Click Here to Email moonnut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saw this Gene Cernan signed large framed photo and thought this looked way bad! But 10 bids later it is over $100. Tell me if I'm wrong.

328KF
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posted 02-15-2014 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 328KF   Click Here to Email 328KF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The signature itself is somewhat atypical, but the handwriting underneath looks very authentic from Cernan. Maybe this was signed when he was having trouble with his hand/wrist? I know for a short time there he signed in a completely different style when he was in pain.

moonnut
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posted 02-15-2014 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonnut   Click Here to Email moonnut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I especially love the framing job! Two pieces of black construction paper lapping over each other for the background. And even one of them has a paper hole punch. At a hundred dollars, I'm shaking my head, who are these people bidding.

chet
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posted 02-15-2014 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chet   Click Here to Email chet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I doubt wrist pain made him forget how to spell his own name, and the word "Apollo"; this one's garbage if you ask me.

Greggy_D
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posted 02-15-2014 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Greggy_D   Click Here to Email Greggy_D     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Agreed. No way I would touch this.

328KF
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posted 02-15-2014 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 328KF   Click Here to Email 328KF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
While I'm not defending this seller, and would not have bid on the item...I have several signed photos in my collection where the astronaut misspelled words, even seemingly obvious ones like "Apollo." Often it is the speed and/or frequency at a particular signing that can cause this. Didn't Aldrin sign someone's Franklin Mint LM base with an "Apollo XII" after his name?

I also noticed that in this example, Cernan did not cross the top of the "XVII," as he often does after his signature because the long "C" underlines his name and doubles as that top line on the Roman numeral. It seems this was done here even though the inscription was added.

I guess if someone was going to fake something, why would they put together such a unique combination of simple misspellings, and obvious characteristics of Cernan's signature? I'm not an autograph expert by any means, but these are just some observations on my part to add to the discussion. Like I said, there were enough questionable things about it that would have kept me away, too.

moonnut
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posted 02-15-2014 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonnut   Click Here to Email moonnut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, six people bid on this and it sold for $238. I've seen authentic without a doubt, exact photos with the same inscription go for less. I'm standing beside myself in disbelief right now. If you go the the seller's other items and look at their recently sold items, you will see most of the signed items are highly questionable.

chet
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posted 02-16-2014 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for chet   Click Here to Email chet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree astronauts make occasional signing mistakes, like any human would - I've even got a few such signed items - but I know Capt. Cernan's signing habits well enough to know he'd have crumpled something like this up and thrown it away himself if he'd botched something as badly as this (and would've made good on any item he might've ruined or devalued due to error, I might add, because that's just the kind of class act he is.)

Steve Zarelli
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posted 02-17-2014 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steve Zarelli   Click Here to Email Steve Zarelli     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my opinion, this Cernan is junk as is the seller's other autographed items. Aldrin, Wade Boggs Nolan Ryan and Mark McGwire are all bad.

The style looked familiar and then I noted the Texas location. I think it is a safe bet this is the same seller (under a different eBay name but from Texas) that has been outed here previously.

If people continue to pay $238 for ghastly forgeries, this seller will continue to do what he does.

Just my opinion of course...

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