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garyd2831
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posted 08-01-2013 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for garyd2831   Click Here to Email garyd2831     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm looking for opinions regarding a recent auction that I won on eBay with an accepted best offer.

For some time now I had been looking for the patch utilized in the movie Space Camp, 1986. While there were some replicas made in 2007, the replica to my eyes were a poor copy of the movie version.

Long story short, I happen to be on eBay last night when I tripped across an auction offering a vintage Space Camp-looking flight suit with movie version patch. Without wasting time, I submitted an offer which was accepted about 15 minutes later.

Anyway, I won this auction and want your opinion on if this is a possible leftover movie prop from the film "Space Camp."

The Space Camp patch even has the larger "S" and "C" as the movie patch did and the replica did not. The two Velcro arm bands are in the same location at the film utilized flight suits. If you watch the film, you will see that they are covered with darker blue bands, and the space campers watching the launch for LCC are wearing what appears to be green in color bands.

The seller stated the following in the auction "This is a vintage flight suit that resembles the jumpsuits in the 1986 film. I've no idea if this was a suit that was in or created for the movie, or if it's a 1980's Space Camp flight suit since it was purchased from an estate of someone who worked for ABC and it didn't have any additional information. The size shows it's 36 and it was made by Avirex. All zippers are in good working condition."

What does every one think? Did I score a nice prop?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 08-01-2013 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would suggest checking with Vincent Vazzo, who runs Hab1.com, a Space Camp-focused website (and who was inducted into the Space Camp Hall of Fame in 2008).

Vincent collects and is well-versed on "Space Camp" movie memorabilia.

garyd2831
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posted 08-01-2013 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for garyd2831   Click Here to Email garyd2831     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Robert for the recommendation. Will do.

garyd2831
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posted 08-01-2013 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for garyd2831   Click Here to Email garyd2831     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Vincent responded to me and stated that it appears to be a "Space Camp" movie flight suit. As to it being used in the film, well we might not ever really know. He forwarded me a thread that he had regarding this suit from a few weeks ago.

p51
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posted 08-01-2013 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for p51   Click Here to Email p51     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agonized over getting this, but decided not to as I have too much movie prop stuff I never do anything with as it is.

That thread on the HAB forum has a few posts by myself in there. I fully believe this is a real movie flight suit.

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posted 08-01-2013 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for garyd2831   Click Here to Email garyd2831     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Its the only movie prop item I have now and as a kid growing up in the 80s, I was fixed on the movie. Even finally had my chance at Space Academy in April 1994.

What caught my eye was the patch and I had been looking for the Space Camp movie patch for some time now. Even the reproduction ones made in 2007 aren't really close to that of the film version.

Maybe I can get the cast members to sign it.

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posted 08-01-2013 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for p51   Click Here to Email p51     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by garyd2831:
Maybe I can get the cast members to sign it.
I'd suggest against that. Signatures on screen-used props and costumes actually knock down the value among most collectors.

Any chance you could get a good photo of the patch itself? I agree that the copies were so-so at best and even those have vanished off the face of the earth, they never turn up on eBay...

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posted 08-01-2013 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perhaps then it is best than that good images of the patch remain unavailable. At the very least, it protects from unauthorized good-quality copies being made.

It's okay to keep some things rare and difficult to collect, it leads to victories like Gary's when he picked up this suit...

garyd2831
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posted 08-01-2013 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for garyd2831   Click Here to Email garyd2831     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, the recommendation is against having the flight suit signed by cast members, and not to have a high quality picture of the patch made to protect its integrity against those who want to make unauthorized copies?

Who owns the copyright to the patch and was the cheap replicas a licensed by Space Camp themselves or through the movie owners?

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posted 08-01-2013 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The trademark to the patch belongs to the studio. The replica sold by Space Camp was produced with permission.

I agree with not having the suit signed. Get a cast photo signed and frame it in a shadow box with the suit.

garyd2831
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posted 08-01-2013 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for garyd2831   Click Here to Email garyd2831     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Robert and Lee for your insight. The suit will be kept unsigned and I won't publish or post any high quality photos of the patch to protects its integrity.

It was a great find and I'm very happy to be the lucky to have won it.

Where is a good place to find a high quality cast photo? I have been looking at some lobby cards, but can't seem to find a nice group shot.

p51
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posted 08-01-2013 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for p51   Click Here to Email p51     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was curious, at one point I considered getting this suit to donate to SC for display as they have older stuff from camp on display in the main building for the public to see (along with our very own Robert's Space Camp stuff when he was a kid, as part of his Space Camp Hall of Fame display), then I got to wondering if they'd even care to have one. I wonder what — if anything — they have from the movie still at Huntsville?

When I was at Space Academy last year they had a display of costumes from the "Smile as big as the Moon" TV movie, "Space Warriors" was still in post production at the time, having wrapped a couple of weeks before...

This was right in front of the Enterprise Mission Control when I was there in September:

garyd2831
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posted 08-01-2013 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for garyd2831   Click Here to Email garyd2831     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I only remembered some movie stills from the film that were on display in the main building. I don't recall seeing any flight suits or movie props. I did find online a couple of times the model of Atlantis for the orbit scenes.

You can barely read the name Atlantis, it's so small in size for the text.

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posted 08-01-2013 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The U.S. Space & Rocket Center still has a number of items from the production, including, of course, the shuttle simulators and multi-axis trainer featured in the film.

They also have the hand controller that was added to the multi-axis trainer to suggest there was a way to bring it under control.

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posted 08-01-2013 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for p51   Click Here to Email p51     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had heard about the grip.

As for the rest, it's a shame they don't at least have a small display of the stuff from the movies. When I went through adult camp last fall, almost everyone there cited the movie as a reason they'd always wanted to go...

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posted 10-07-2013 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for p51   Click Here to Email p51     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The "Smile as Big as the Moon" display is still there, as of September 15. It's sad that there is almost nothing there that talks about the 1986 film (nor the 2013, "Space Warriors" movie, which I think wasn't all that sad, I got the feeling that many of the staff would rather that film fade to obscurity as quick as possible).
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Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:
The U.S. Space & Rocket Center still has a number of items from the production, including, of course, the shuttle simulators and multi-axis trainer featured in the film.
I went through Space Camp last month, and our team got to use the Atlantis simulator for our missions (Enterprise is the one that has the full cargo bay, we used that one last year). I got to be commander for the long-duration mission and as I strapped in, I was told by the trainer that this was the set for the Atlantis in the "SpaceCamp" (one word) movie, which was given to the center when they were done with it.

Needless to say, I thought it was really cool that I got to land the actual SpaceCamp movie shuttle!

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