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space archeologist
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posted 07-14-2013 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for space archeologist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have just registered on this great forum and interested to speak to knowledgeable members about some of my Chinese rocket parts from the world's first satellite in space knock down.

Salvaged under International Maritime Laws in The Sea Of Okhotsk May 2011. On recovery all of the pieces were offered back to the Chinese government numerous times and our generous offers were declined. The history of the 2007 event certainly attracted world press and media coverage for some time. Regretfully the press and media neglected to inform the public in detail about the how and why of this remarkable event.

I reside in Japan and watched and listened with great interest when in 2005 NHK TV reported on a Chinese spy satellite in very low orbit above Japan. Almost every day the satellite was in the papers or on tv with the Japanese outraged and the Americans non too impressed with the flagrant spying directly above U.S military installations. Finally things came to a head towards the end of 2006 with the press reporting the satellite was days from falling back to Earth... likely onto Japan... the press and media were on a roll and within 24 hours the satellite was reported as being the size of a bus and could land on Tokyo.

The Chinese had reported the satellite as being a weather satellite which are generally 3,000 -5,000 klm in higher orbit. The Japanese were getting panicky as were the Chinese by now with a serious problem on their hands if the satellite fell onto Japan and the spy theory proved a diplomatic outcry would have caused great strains. In 2007 the only quick solution for the Chinese was to hastily totally disarm a HN3 missile and systems capable of intercontinental space flight. Once reverted back to being a rocket capable of pinpoint accuracy using only kinetic energy due to the fact the satellite was directly above Japan and explosives would be unacceptable, knock down the satellite via 'kinetic energy'.

I am interested in some of your members knowledgeable opinions on the value of some of the serial plate numbers removed from the rocket fuselage. In particular the 555-5 82gram space flown serial Plate. Interesting aspects of the mission are rocket speed 76,000 klm per hour; rocket weight 19 ton; Satellite speed 24,000 klm per hour estimated weight 450 kg. Impact about 100,000 klm per hour.

No dangerous radiation detected on any of the parts or stealth chemicals, etc. before anyone wigs out. We got more radiation readings from a pineapple in the fruit bowl than the rocket parts. Interestingly the pineapple was from Mexico, the label read.

One of the identifying parts of the rocket stamped HN3 was independently valued by Beijing Auctions at $800,000 ~ $1,300,000 in March 2013. The collection was filmed by Chinese tv June 26th.

Larry McGlynn
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posted 07-14-2013 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Larry McGlynn   Click Here to Email Larry McGlynn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It wasn't the first satellite shoot down. The Russians shot down orbiting test satellites in the 1970s. The US shot down an orbiting satellite in 1985. The Chinese were third in shooting down satellites.

Still very interesting pieces. How did you find the pieces of the rocket and pull them out of the sea?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 07-14-2013 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by space archeologist:
...our generous offers were declined.
In what format were your offers declined and what Chinese organization or entity issued the refusal?

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posted 07-14-2013 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for space archeologist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Larry McGlynn:
It wasn't the first satellite shoot down.
I think the "Kinetic Energy" aspect of the satellite knock down makes it a world's first event.
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How did you find the pieces of the rocket and pull them out of the sea?
After eye witnessing a very close meteorite fall hearing the noise and seeing the blinding white tail and spending almost 10 years searching for it I became hooked on space and anything coming from it. My meteorite sighting discussed with Japanese university had them 9 months later finding a 143 kg meteorite which was an old fall, but made the connection to a shrine that had a collect of meteorites 48 in total and my theory on a strewn field find in Japan. (A book is in the making regarding this as all the meteorites are iron).

Once the satellite event unfolded in 2007 I did the math on trajectory and read the U.S government was searching 575klm northeast and thought they were wrong. May 2011 on a gold hunting trip driving along the coast of the Sea Of Okhotsk I had to test my theory and within an hour I was right on top of the wreckage in about 5 meters of freezing water.

I used fishing buoys and cables and a make shift air bag to lift and a very make shift sled to skull drag the 100 kg of fuselage 1.5 klm along the beach and a truck inner tube to float the wreckage over a small stream to the car park... then into my camper. About 4 days of solid work, fresh pictures can be seen on Wikipedia of the wreckage once landed onto the beach.

I spent 10 years in the 1970's in PNG collecting WWII relics from the jungles and ocean so was quick to realize what the wreckage was and after luckily finding the 145cm 3.6kg strut marked HN-3 to ID the rocket there was no question this was from the Chinese 2007 launch. The down side was my gold seeking expedition came to an abrupt halt and we returned back to Honshu months earlier than expected.

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posted 07-14-2013 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for space archeologist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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In what format were your offers declined and what Chinese organization or entity issued the refusal?
Direct to Chinese Embassy Tokyo with the wreckage in my camper parked 100 meters away. Showed photographs to their security and left a letter for their ambassador. Did the same in Osaka City and then sent letters to China with photographs and CD.

I believe that China having had this rocket made by the Russians for China probably should not be producing such projectiles with intercontinental capabilities and all the identifying markings in Russian writing along with IC panel components would be why China declined its return in five words "We don't want it back."

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