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Gonzo
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posted 02-22-2013 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gonzo   Click Here to Email Gonzo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Need some advice. I just won an auction on eBay for an original Tang Apollo 11 patch. Now those of you that know me will know that I bid on it purely because, a) you know Apollo is my favorite program and particularly Apollo 11, b) I don't happen to have this presentation yet, and c) I remember these when I was a kid and my parents wouldn't fork over the cash for one then.

But here's my quandary. What I won is still sealed. It's never been opened. Do I open it to verify the contents or leave it sealed and closed? You can find pictures of what is on the inside, but how do you know what you have is correct if you don't? In these days of scams, verification would be a good thing. On the other hand, I can see how it's value may go up in time (probably not a lot, but hear my reason) if left sealed.

Thoughts?

garymilgrom
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posted 02-22-2013 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for garymilgrom   Click Here to Email garymilgrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you saying the memento is in an opaque bag? If so I'd open it to check. Too much cyber scamming going on. Try to steam it open or use some other non-destructive way if possible. Perhaps you can verify the contents and still leave the bag available for re-sealing if necessary. Let's see some photos!

Gonzo
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posted 02-22-2013 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gonzo   Click Here to Email Gonzo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would this suffice? Vintage Official Apollo 11 Patch from Tang Neil Armstrong NASA Sealed

Robert Pearlman
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posted 02-22-2013 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You should be able to steam the envelope open without damaging it. I don't believe the difference between a sealed envelope and a carefully steamed-open one will affect the value too greatly, especially since you have less than $20 invested in the piece.

(This video also suggests freezing it.)

rgarner
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posted 02-23-2013 06:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rgarner   Click Here to Email rgarner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Schrodingers Patch?

garymilgrom
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posted 02-23-2013 07:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for garymilgrom   Click Here to Email garymilgrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's a nice looking memento and uncommon in my experience. I'd frame it and display it!

Joel Katzowitz
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posted 02-23-2013 07:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joel Katzowitz   Click Here to Email Joel Katzowitz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It should be less about maximizing the value and more about enjoying the artifact. Just my 2.

Gonzo
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posted 02-23-2013 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gonzo   Click Here to Email Gonzo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks guys!

I agree it's about the item, not the value. However it doesn't make sense to do things that will devalue it either. My only question was about verifying the contents. With all the scams these days I'd rather not find a few years from now when I may need to open it that it's filled with newspaper clippings!

schnappsicle
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posted 02-23-2013 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for schnappsicle   Click Here to Email schnappsicle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with Pearlman. It only cost $20, so whats the big deal? It's not like you're going to lose hundreds if you open it, nor are you likely to gain much by keeping it sealed.

mach3valkyrie
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posted 02-23-2013 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mach3valkyrie   Click Here to Email mach3valkyrie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would open it as neatly as possible and display both pieces. Nice item!

Gonzo
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posted 02-25-2013 07:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gonzo   Click Here to Email Gonzo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rgarner:
Schrodingers Patch?

I wonder how many people got this joke...

YankeeClipper
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posted 02-25-2013 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YankeeClipper   Click Here to Email YankeeClipper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rgarner:
Schrodingers Patch?
For this experiment in der Quantenmechanik if you find a radioactive source and a small flask of hydrocyanic acid in that envelope, you will have far more things to worry about than whether the patch is real or not!

Back up real slow and call Homeland Security...

Gonzo
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posted 02-25-2013 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gonzo   Click Here to Email Gonzo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL.

Unfortunately, if that WERE to happen, I'd be calling a bunch of people; Homeland Security would probably NOT be one if them.

Gonzo
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posted 03-03-2013 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gonzo   Click Here to Email Gonzo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Last update - I received my patch. It is wonderful and exactly like the pictures posted. I did steam it open (thanks Robert!) very carefully. I suppose I could steam it again to seal it back up, but that seems like cheating somehow, having let the genie out of the bottle, so to speak. There was no damage to the envelope so it is still as pristine as a 40+ year old envelope can be. Only open now.

By the way, if anyone is interested in these, they pop up from time to time on EB. There's another listed right now I think.

Thanks for all the advice. Thought I should post some closure to my question.

Spacefest
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posted 03-04-2013 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spacefest   Click Here to Email Spacefest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Seems to me if you open it, you'll have to keep it refrigerated.

Gonzo
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posted 03-04-2013 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gonzo   Click Here to Email Gonzo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nah. It's flight certified so it has a shelf life in the order of a thousand years...

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