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Author Topic:   300843475917: Apollo 7 crew patch replica (?)
randyc
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From: Highlands Ranch, CO USA
Registered: May 2003

posted 01-06-2013 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for randyc   Click Here to Email randyc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's an Apollo 7 patch on eBay, Item 300843475917, that looks like it's not an original Apollo 7 crew patch. Comparing it to the one shown on Chris Spain's website there are several differences such as the lack of 'ribbing' in the South American landmass, the details of the Command/Service Module, the colors of the land masses and the size of the VII.

Would be interested in hearing what other collectSPACE members think about this patch.

spaced out
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From: Paris, France
Registered: Aug 2003

posted 01-07-2013 01:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A modern copy by the looks of it. Certainly not an original crew patch.

The ambiguous wording "Rare Apollo 7 patch." reminds me of Randy Hunt's eBay listings when he knew he was selling a replica.

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 01-07-2013 02:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, you gents are quite right. When I first looked at this patch in the early hours of the morning it looked ok, but now definitely not an original.

I have e-mailed the seller telling him it is a replica patch. This is his reply.

'I have no idea, I just know it doesn't look like any of the Apollo 7 patches I typically see. Thanx.'

spaced out
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posted 01-07-2013 04:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll add this replica to my site when I get time this evening.

My only worry is where this patch came from and why it is being listed in the classic 'Randy Hunt' style of a 3 day listing with ambiguous description.

Is it an old Randy Hunt version? It looks very new indeed but could date from the 1990s or 2000s.

There's nothing wrong with someone having produced an Apollo 7 crew patch replica, but it needs to be sold as such.

Besixdouze
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From: Hebden Bridge, West Yorkshire, United Kingdom
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posted 01-07-2013 04:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Besixdouze   Click Here to Email Besixdouze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would Randy have gone to the trouble of having two different replica Apollo 7 patches made? The one shown on genedorr.com looks like a Crew Souvenir patch, and not a bad one at that. The one listed on ebay is pretty crude by comparison.

spaced out
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posted 01-07-2013 06:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I suspect Randy often manufactured on demand as runs of three patches. A collector would ask Randy if he had an Apollo 7 crew patch, he would go off and find an image, order 3 examples, sell one to the collector, sell one on eBay as a 'rare patch' and keep one example.

If another collector asked him later for an Apollo 7 crew patch with a white surround he might well have done the whole process again with a different source image and the manufacturer would have re-done the artwork based on that new image.

spaced out
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posted 01-07-2013 06:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I should note that the seller has updated the description on eBay but it still doesn't make clear that it's not a vintage original crew patch.

He does say it was acquired over 10 years ago, so Randy Hunt (4gator) is a likely source.

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 01-09-2013 04:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This patch has now been withdrawn from sale as both us bidders requested to retract our bids.

The seller may re-list this Apollo 7 patch as a Randy Hunt replica at a later date.

kosmo
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posted 01-09-2013 08:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kosmo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, as of approximately 5:28 AM EST when this patch listing was ended, none of the two bidders had requested a bid retraction and of the three bids placed, Keven T. Randall, with two bids was the highest bidder.

Also at this time, Randy Hunt is only a suspect manufacturer, there is still not a known manufacturer.

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