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stevemw
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posted 08-31-2012 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stevemw   Click Here to Email stevemw     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can anyone confirm if this autograph is authentic (which it looks like it is to me comparing it to other ones I've seen) and what they think the approximate value is?

Thanks so much.

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posted 08-31-2012 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilbasso   Click Here to Email ilbasso     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hard to tell without a close-up of the signature.

I would be more than a little surprised if Shepard had signed that fake "photo" of his golf shot. It was a poorly-done fake that circulated for a while, but I hadn't seen it lately.

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posted 08-31-2012 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JasonB   Click Here to Email JasonB     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe that photo is from Shepard's book Moon Shot, so he probably wouldn't have had a problem signing it.

That being said, the autograph, to me, looks a lot like a secretarial. It's very neatly written out and has the fish hook at the end of Shepard. He only would have had four years to sign this so I doubt his signature would have been this neatly in that book signing time period but there's a chance I could be wrong. I stay away from buying Shepards that look like this but his authentic signature does have a fish hook at the end from time to time, so that doesn't necessarily disqualify it. I remember my Dad getting very nicely written authentic Shepards back in the mail, but I think that was before his book release in 1994.

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posted 08-31-2012 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceSteve   Click Here to Email SpaceSteve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm definitely not an expert, but I'd be wary of that Shepard. It appears to have a "loopless h" in "Shepard", which is one of the telltale signs of a secretarial signature.

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posted 09-01-2012 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mjanovec   Click Here to Email mjanovec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This Shepard is perfectly fine as far as I'm concerned.

Sometimes you get the "fishtail," sometimes you don't. Sometimes his pen lifts during the "h," sometimes it doesn't.

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posted 09-01-2012 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stsmithva   Click Here to Email stsmithva     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just thought I'd mention that I have a copy of "Moonshot" that Shepard inscribed on the usual title page, then signed on that photo within.

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posted 09-01-2012 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stevemw   Click Here to Email stevemw     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks guys. Any idea how much it's worth?

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posted 09-01-2012 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spacefest   Click Here to Email Spacefest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that photo is a still from a 16mm movie.

The hooked 'd' is authentic. All Shepard's sigs on all the "Moonwalkers" prints have
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posted 09-01-2012 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stsmithva   Click Here to Email stsmithva     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Spacefest:
I think that photo is a still from a 16mm movie.
This website has a good write-up of the photo:
Not only was the picture a combination of several Hasselblad shots, but the golf club, ball, the S-Band legs and some shadows were drawn in. The publishers of the book created the image because the existing real video images were too grainy to present in a book’s picture section.

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posted 09-02-2012 08:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steve Zarelli   Click Here to Email Steve Zarelli     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my experience, the secretarial "tells" in Shepard are shortcuts and guidelines only that can't be relied upon all the time. If you put a secretary side by side with a real Shepard, you can clearly see they were done by two different hands without even having to look for the shortcuts. The tail after the d is very unreliable and I suggest disregarding it.

(That said, the spiked p is about 100% reliable, Shepard never did that.)

Regarding the loopless h, you need to look for the INTENT of a loop. In the example above, you can tell the hand went in the motion of a loop, but it just skipped on the right side. In a secretarial, the motion goes from the S directly up into the stem of the h... no intent to make a loop.

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posted 09-02-2012 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tykeanaut   Click Here to Email Tykeanaut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd put it in the $200-$300 range.

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posted 09-03-2012 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mjanovec   Click Here to Email mjanovec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Steve Zarelli:
That said, the spiked p is about 100% reliable, Shepard never did that.

Not 100% true. Looking at examples of Shepard's signature from his childhood and early adulthood, there was a pronounced spiked "p." (Unless Shepard had a secretary do his homework for him. ) It seems to have disappeared sometime between 1940 and 1944, where a signed check from that year does not show the spiked p.

Of course, if the signed item has anything to do with the space program, then one should expect there to be no spiked "p" at all.

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