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eems
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posted 08-30-2012 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for eems   Click Here to Email eems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Searching for Sieger Armstrong block or full set and these two individuals have popped up recently:
  1. 130756547369
  2. 221116878419
I'm a relative newbie so looking for opinions from those who probably have at least 1 in their collections. Neither auction has the Sieger certificate included. Thanks.

Tykeanaut
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posted 08-30-2012 06:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tykeanaut   Click Here to Email Tykeanaut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my opinion they both look fine.

spaceflori
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posted 08-30-2012 06:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaceflori   Click Here to Email spaceflori     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They both look good!

Should be interesting to watch the price of these stamp blocks now... they seemed to sell at $1700 sometimes before his passing (but also as low as $600 on eBay...)

DSeuss5490
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posted 08-30-2012 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DSeuss5490   Click Here to Email DSeuss5490     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One sold this past weekend for $300 on ebay.

eems
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posted 08-30-2012 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for eems   Click Here to Email eems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great feedback so far. Does the lack of the certificate make that big of a difference on value? I know authentication in general and CoA's are often not seen as more than just paper to a lot of people. Thanks!

spaceflori
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posted 08-30-2012 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaceflori   Click Here to Email spaceflori     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sieger never issued a certificate for any of his signed stamp blocks. He did include a small sheet of paper with printed information about the stamp block and also the remark that the stamp block has been signed by astronaut x. It's not what we understand today as a COA however in those days nobody had the need for a COA.

Many people threw away that paper slip, by the way. So in this case it shouldn't make a difference in value.

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posted 08-30-2012 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JasonB   Click Here to Email JasonB     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've got a complete set of Sieger stamps with all the slips on the way. If your interested just drop me an email. I'll only charge a little less than what I have into it. I just have a bunch of other things I'd like to get at the moment.

Tykeanaut
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posted 08-30-2012 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tykeanaut   Click Here to Email Tykeanaut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think there were or are any Neil Armstrong forgeries on this kind of stamp block, but I may be wrong?

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posted 08-30-2012 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The unsigned stamp blocks appear quite regularly and a big favourite with forgers, so yes, forged versions are common.

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posted 08-30-2012 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for poolman18   Click Here to Email poolman18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is the only Armstrong item that I have collected over the years and am happy to say that I own four of these and two complete sets of stamps with inserts also.

daveblog
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posted 08-31-2012 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for daveblog   Click Here to Email daveblog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I purchased a near complete set missing the Armstrong for just over $200 a couple of years ago. I wish I hadn't waited on trying to complete it.

Mark B
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posted 09-05-2012 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mark B     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tykeanaut:
I don't think there were or are any Neil Armstrong forgeries on this kind of stamp block, but I may be wrong?
That isn't the case actually.

There were unsigned blocks that were in the market for sale and a few years ago. Armstrong forgeries came onto eBay. Only saw two but they were definitely about. Pretty poor attempts however...

I am unsure however how many unsigned blocks were actually printed.

On edit: cS thread on the issue may be of interest.

eems
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posted 09-15-2012 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eems   Click Here to Email eems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you cS community for your knowledge and availability. I'm am now lucky enough to have the full set thanks to fellow member JasonB. I wish I had stumbled upon these resources earlier in my relatively new space collecting hobby and look forward to viewing these pages/message daily moving forward.

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