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benfairfax
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posted 06-06-2012 08:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for benfairfax   Click Here to Email benfairfax     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you please tell me what you think? Real or autopen?

8 James Lovell BS (Autopen)

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posted 06-06-2012 08:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks like an Autopen to me, albeit with a small missing section at the start.

schnappsicle
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posted 06-06-2012 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for schnappsicle   Click Here to Email schnappsicle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks real to me. An autopen would show the complete autograph with no variation in pressure or pen width.

There's a small chance it could be a pre-printed autograph instead of an autopen. You'd have to look at it at an angle to the light to see for sure.

benfairfax
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posted 06-06-2012 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for benfairfax   Click Here to Email benfairfax     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The earlier autos are so hard to distinguish. I have a later Lovell auto and it is easy to tell. I have never seen an auto with the start ink dry like this one. It also has width variation on the J. I'm stumped.

David Carey
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posted 06-06-2012 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for David Carey   Click Here to Email David Carey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with Chris - other than the 'missing start' on the J it appears to precisely match the first autopen shown in Russ Still's book.

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posted 06-06-2012 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just downloaded the high-res version of your autograph and indeed it is an Autopen. 100% sure.

These early Autopens looked very natural, with some variation in line width, as shown in the examples for this Autopen pattern on my site.

In any case this signature is an exact match for the AP pattern - every loop, letter and even the little flat line at the upper right of the "L" loop.

Overlay the pattern on your example and rotate and resize it to fit and it matches exactly.

Daniel Lazecky
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posted 06-06-2012 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daniel Lazecky   Click Here to Email Daniel Lazecky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bright, clear autopen — there is no doubt. Further discussion also unnecessary.

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