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navyflyer1127
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posted 03-29-2012 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for navyflyer1127   Click Here to Email navyflyer1127     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fellow cS followers, I come to you once again for your experienced opinions. I happened upon an estate sale today of a former NASA project manager. He was on every team from Apollo 8 through STS-36.

I quickly came across his old NASA scrapbooks and picked them up hoping I could find some gems. There were three books in all, one for Apollo, one for Skylab, and the largest for the Shuttle missions.

Inside were tons of original NASA photos. They all had what looked like typed or stamped descriptions with Kennedy Space Center numbering, some even had Original Film on them. These photos ranged from everything from lunar surface flag salutes to shuttle images. There were also a ton of original NASA lithographs, with logos and descriptions on the backs as well.

There were also covers from every mission with the KSC stamp on the date of every launch.

However, what appear to be the biggest gems in the collection were buried deep in the books. The highlights included a flag presentation flown on STS-1, a presentation of two patches flown on STS-36 with all crew signatures, a Skylab Medallion made from flown metal, a lunar surface flown piece of safety line from Apollo 14, an STS-1 Mission Chart, an STS-1 Crewmember Mission Overview, an Apollo 13 launch pass, and tons of other things I don't want to bore anyone with.

The man who this collection belonged to was a distinguished member of NASA's team and there was even a hand written happy birthday note from the NASA director. I still can't believe all the crazy things I was lucky enough to find, but now I rely on all your opinions.

Is this truly a special find? What is the rarity of some of these items? My favorite piece is an original photo from Apollo 15 of Irwin saluting the flag. The back has "Original Film" with the date 8/11/71. Does this have any significance?

Thanks for your opinions in advance. I'm still new at the space collecting, so I rely on the expertise of the community! Cheers!

astrobock
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posted 03-29-2012 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrobock   Click Here to Email astrobock     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A great find! Congratulations!

spaced out
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posted 03-30-2012 05:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sounds like a great collection of items. If you're looking to keep them then you've got yourself an impressive space collection for presumably little expense.

In terms of the photos, lithos in general have very little value but original glossy photos can be quite collectible. The key thing, apart from condition, is the watermark on the back of the paper. "A KODAK PAPER" indicates a vintage photo from the Gemini or Apollo era, whilst any other multi-line watermark indicates a later printing with much less value.

Flown flags/patch presentations are always popular.The Apollo 14 flown safety line fragment card is worth several hundred dollars. If you're looking to form your own collection rather than to resell for profit then you should appreciate that this piece of material was actually carried on the lunar surface. It's truly a treasure.

navyflyer1127
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posted 03-31-2012 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for navyflyer1127   Click Here to Email navyflyer1127     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
After reading your post, I checked all the photos in the collection and sure enough, they all have the Kodak watermark. I'm most excited to report that the Irwin flag salute on the moon, also has the Kodak watermark under the "Original Film" stamp.

capoetc
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posted 03-31-2012 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capoetc   Click Here to Email capoetc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since no one has already said this, I will take it upon myself:

You are likely to receive (if you have not already) some offers to "help you out" by taking some items off your hands for what sounds like very good prices. Resist the urge to accept these offers -- almost certainly, the person offering knows exactly what the items are worth, and they are trying to get you to sell them for less than they are worth.

My first piece of advice would be, if you have any inclination at all to keep the collection, then by all means that would be your best option. Also, if you can gather some biographical information about the NASA worker who owned the collection (along with maybe a few pictures of him/her) then that would add to the interest of the collection.

I think the biographical info is also desirable for the flown items, so you may want to make extra copies to go along with the flown flags, etc, in case you decide to sell them -- collectors will appreciate having some information about the person who was presented with the awards.

Finally, if you would like to know some information about the items or possibly what they might be worth, go ahead and post them here. If you don't know how, someone can certainly help you (I'd be happy to, although I will be unable to assist until Thursday as I will be out of town the next 4 days). There are lots of knowledgable folks here who are honest and trustworthy and will give you valuable opinions to help you understand what you have.

Good luck!

navyflyer1127
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posted 04-01-2012 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for navyflyer1127   Click Here to Email navyflyer1127     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you everyone for your helpful and informative responses. I took some pictures of what I was able to find and put them online in an album. Sorry for the quality on some, and I tried a bunch of times to orient them properly, but the website was giving me trouble.

With the exception of the few Apollo lithographs, all the other pictures are genuine NASA photos on Kodak paper, with documenting stamps on the back.

The awards and newspaper articles give a little glimpse into this former employee's career. After doing a little more research of my own, I'm sad to report that he had passed on from cancer in the mid-90's, however, I'm glad people can appreciate his impressive legacy with all the space programs.

If anyone has any more info on a particular photo or piece, please let me know, I'm still learning the ropes in this community! Thanks for looking.

Dan Lorraine
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posted 04-01-2012 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dan Lorraine   Click Here to Email Dan Lorraine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great advice about folks offering "help". While most members here are really terrific and honest, there are a few suspect characters. I can remember offering a signed photo for sale of Neil Armstrong on the moon (it was a NASA press release photo taken from one frame of the 16MM camera that had photographed Buzz and Neil setting up the US flag - try finding a legitimate signed photo of Armstrong on the moon... good luck!) and this one joker (also a dealer) who is a very "respected" member of this group offered me $300!

So yes, great advise!

Email me if you want to know who not to sell to (in my humble opinion).

spaced out
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posted 04-04-2012 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The STS-1 patches in photo 102 are the 'Crew' patches for this mission. Worth upwards of $50 each.

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