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mikeh
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posted 07-06-2008 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mikeh   Click Here to Email mikeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On this Apollo 17 crew-signed cover, I think the Schmitt looks like an autopen, but not so sure about the Cernan and Evans. Do they look hand-signed?

DChudwin
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posted 07-10-2008 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DChudwin   Click Here to Email DChudwin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Schmitt does appear to be an autopen; the Cernan and Evans are genuine in my opinion.

mikeh
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posted 07-10-2008 11:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mikeh   Click Here to Email mikeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A word of caution. I've since had a couple people email me that they are uncomfortable with the Apollo 17 signatures.

Also the seller (in Germany) is auctioning what appears to be a bogus/forged Armstrong.

spaceflori
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posted 07-11-2008 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaceflori   Click Here to Email spaceflori     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Schmitt looks like an autopen, but why should the Cernan and Evans be wrong? Who would fake Cernan and Evans on an autopen signed Schmitt cover? Doesn't really makes sense to me... rather someone sent in the cover to the three astronauts then and got two real and one autopen signature, a common problem in those days when you sent in cover to three Apollo astronauts.

The maker of the cover is a well known space dealer (not active anymore) from the 70s and 80s.

eurospace
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posted 07-11-2008 02:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for eurospace   Click Here to Email eurospace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They seem alright to me, Cernan and Evans.

Even for Schmitt, I would like to see a plain good 90 degree angle scan before making a judgement.

For the cover (Astro Documenta), my recollection is that these were initially produced by a Swiss (not German) dealer by the name of Hans Groth. Some of his covers were also sold through German dealers (namely Rautschke), but they originally came from Switzerland. The autographs were added later, probably by some collector sending covers to the Astronaut Office or the individual astronauts after the time.

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