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biker123
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posted 01-26-2008 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for biker123   Click Here to Email biker123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have some vintage NASA photos that I I'm not sure how common/rare valuable/desirable they are.

These are all 8X10 glossy color prints on Kodak paper, and all except 1 has the NASA printed Mission description and NASA photo credit info printed on the back. The photos are:

  1. Gemini IX Cernan EVA.
  2. Gemini XI Gordon EVA.
  3. GT-4 White EVA.
  4. Gemini IX/ATDA Rendevoux (picture of the ETDA taken from the Gemini at 66 1/2 ft. separation).
  5. Apollo 4 on the crawler. This is the only one without the NASA printing on the back although it does have a NASA photo number on the margin.
  6. Apollo 4 on the launch pad at dawn with a full moon in the sky. Quite a striking picture.
  7. Apollo 4 Recovery (Command Module being hoisted aboard the USS Bennington in the mid-Pacific recovery area.
I've had these for almost 40 years (OMG) and they've been in document protectors from the beginning so they're in great shape.

Your opinions are welcomed and appreciated.

Brian R.

spaced out
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posted 01-27-2008 02:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Assuming the watermark on the back reads "A KODAK PAPER" and not "THIS PAPER MANUFACTURED BY KODAK" the in-flight photos could be quite valuable. You don't mention if they have the NASA photo id printed in the upper left border on the fronts, something that helps boost their value too.

Anyway, for a rough idea of their values (if sold individually on eBay say):
1-4. Probably $50-150+ each.
5 & 7. probably $10-20.
6. If it's a nice image then maybe a little more - say $20-30.

These prices really vary wildly so you can't predict them accurately. The key if you're selling them is to be very clear with the descritpion. Mention the exact wording of the watermark, the exact condition, and be sure to make the listing available worldwide (at least 50% of buyers are in Europe) with reasonable postal charges.

biker123
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posted 01-27-2008 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for biker123   Click Here to Email biker123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for your feedback... Here are the details. ALL of the photo watermarks are "A Kodak Paper", and except for #5 they all have the typical 2 paragraphs of blue printing on the back which includes the "Official NASA photograph", a paragraph describing the mission/event and a paragraph of NASA photo credit/release info & rules for use. Also, none are autographed.
  1. Gemini IX Cernan EVA. Oddly, this photo has no NASA nr. printed either on the front or back, but does have the nr. S-66-38515 written in pencil on the back.

  2. Gemini XI Gordon EVA. On the upper right front margin printed in red is "NASA S-66-54455 and this same nr. is printed on the back in the mission/event description para.

  3. GT-4 White EVA. Printed on the back is the nr. S-65-30427. This print is about 1/4 in. narrower in width than the others (smaller margins)and I'm guessing that after it was printed it was trimmed.

  4. Gemini IX ATDA. Same as 2. Red nr. NASA S-66-37923 on the front and in blue on the back.

  5. Apollo 4 on crawler. Nothing at all printed on the back. Just the Kodak watermarks. Printed on the front lower left margin is NASA G-67-512.

  6. Apollo 4 at Dawn. Same as 2 and 4. on the upper right margin on the front in red is NASA S-67-50531. Same nr. in blue on the back.

  7. Apollo 4 Recovery. No print nr. printed on the front or back, but on the back in pencil is 66-49246. This number is curious because the mission was in 1967.
Additionally, on the White EVA, Cernan EVA and the G9/ATDA prints the actual color print (inside the margins) measures about 7&1/4 X 7&3/4 while on all the others, including the Gordon EVA are 7&1/4 X 9&1/2.Could this be because of the differences in camera equipment? Or does anybody really care?

One last question... if I post images of these photos (both front and back) what's to prevent someone from downloading the images and printing both sides on new Kodak paper to create "their own copies" for resale?

Thanks for sharing your expertise.

Brian R.

mjanovec
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posted 01-27-2008 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mjanovec   Click Here to Email mjanovec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by biker123:
One last question... if I post images of these photos (both front and back) what's to prevent someone from downloading the images and printing both sides on new Kodak paper to create "their own copies" for resale?

The images themselves are not rare. It's the fact they are printed on vintage NASA photographs that makes them desirable. "A Kodak Paper" is no longer available, so it would be extremely difficult for someone to make a convincing recreation of these vintage photographs.

Also, you'd have to post relatively hi-res scans for someone to make good 8x10 copies. A smaller reference scan would be essentially unusable.

If you list these pics at auction, post links here. I might be interested in a couple of them myself.

spaced out
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posted 01-28-2008 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The watermark dates the print to the time of the original issue of these images (or at least the same era) and is what makes them valuable.

Identical prints from NASA with the slightly later watermark that Kodak produced from about 1972 are worth very little in comparison.

It all comes down to the market, which at the moment is not one of space collectors but vintage photographic print collectors. For them the date the print was made is the key thing.

Incidentally, two or three years ago these photos would have been lucky to sell for $20 each, and maybe in another few years the value will have dropped again - or climbed even more - who knows?

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