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Topic: Sputnik for sale, $25000: Real or replica?
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Robert Pearlman
Editor Posts: 42988
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 06-03-2003 09:03 PM
   
The auction:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3611062497 The article:
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=scienceNews&storyID=2871533 |
Rodina
Member Posts: 836
From: Lafayette, CA
Registered: Oct 2001
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posted 06-03-2003 09:26 PM
In any event, it's pretty darn cool.
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Ed beck
Member Posts: 227
From: Florida
Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 06-03-2003 09:36 PM
I guess the question that I would have to ask is, how reliable is sovietski.com? Have they ever intentionally sold a fake? Is it possible that they have been fooled themselves? I just checked their feedback, and it is pretty good. Ed ------------------
"The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands." Psalms 19:1 NIV |
cklofas
Member Posts: 221
From: Euless,TX USA
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted 06-03-2003 10:31 PM
I have bought some non-space items from them in the past and they have always been reliable and ready to fix a problem. I dont believe they would sell something they knew to be a fake. More likely the person they got it from over-sold his product... |
tylko
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posted 06-04-2003 10:58 AM
Numerous full scale replicas of Sputnik were fabricated by the Soviets and used extensively in museums throughout the world. Many of these are on display in Russia including the space museum near Korolev's house in Moscow, the Gagarin training center museum at Star City and the museum at Baikonur, all of which I have personally seen. The Soviets took advantage of the enormous propoganda success of Sputnik and produced numerous high fidelity models for display throughout the Soviet Union and around the world. One of these is hanging in the Milestones of Flight hall at the National Air and Space Museum in Washington DC. |
MrSpace86
Member Posts: 1618
From: Gardner, KS, USA
Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 06-04-2003 01:26 PM
There is also a Sputnik at the Kansas Cosmosphere and Space Center that looks like the real thing too. I doubt that it's one of the real ones, it's probably a copy. They should just open them up and check the inside of the ones for sale to see what they have inside to confirm if they are real or fake.-Rodrigo |
Leon Ford
Member Posts: 309
From: Shreveport, LA, United States
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 06-04-2003 02:18 PM
I guess I don't understand the whole "Real or Replica" question. What would make it "Real"? Unless it were one of the backup Sputniks, with flight worthy instruments and ready to fly, isn't everything else just a model of the original spacecraft? Why is that worth so much money? It seems you could build one in your garage for a lot less than $25,000 and have a model just like the one being sold on Ebay. I'm just asking the question: What makes it "Real"? Leon |
MrSpace86
Member Posts: 1618
From: Gardner, KS, USA
Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 06-04-2003 02:55 PM
That's why they should be opened up to see the instruments inside! |
Robert Pearlman
Editor Posts: 42988
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 06-04-2003 03:06 PM
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Originally posted by Leon Ford:
I'm just asking the question: What makes it "Real"?
I think that's the question that this sale has inspired, and is the point of the Reuters article. It isn't quite clear how many "real" Sputnik were produced at the time of the one that flew, though the Smithsonian's research shows that it was four. The Smithsonian's appears to be a replica, as are the ones on display at most the Russian museums cited to have one. The Seattle Museum of Flight paid over $100,000 for one of what they believe to be the four back-ups. I think that's the crux of the issue -- is the Sovietski sale for one of the four, and if so (or if not) where are the other three (if only three are unaccounted for...)
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scout706
Member Posts: 166
From: Phoenix, AZ USA
Registered: May 2002
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posted 06-04-2003 07:35 PM
According to the Alamagordo space museum,their Sputnik is one of 3 full scale models in the world. So who reall knows?
http://www.spacefame.org/gal3b.html Tom |
Aztecdoug
Member Posts: 1405
From: Huntington Beach
Registered: Feb 2000
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posted 06-04-2003 07:50 PM
I've seen a replica hanging in the lobby of the UN too... |
Rizz
Member Posts: 1208
From: Upcountry, Maui, Hawaii
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 06-04-2003 09:44 PM
If your not the lucky bidder, fear not...
http://www.staufferclassics.com/sputnik.html
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Robert Pearlman
Editor Posts: 42988
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 06-05-2003 07:16 PM
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Seems the Sputnik was pulled before auction's close... |
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