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Topic: WTD: Interior imagery of LM-10 and LM-11
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Chuckster01
Member Posts: 873
From: Orlando, FL
Registered: Jan 2014
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posted 09-17-2016 05:45 AM
   
I am looking for some high resolution photographs I can download that show the interior of the ascent stage for LM-10 (Apollo 15) and LM-11 (Apollo 16). I am looking especially for pictures of the equipment stowage racks. If anyone know of an archive please let me know. Thank you. |
nasamad
Member Posts: 2121
From: Essex, UK
Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 09-17-2016 06:05 AM
Here you go mate: Pre-launch LM Cabin Close-Out Photos. |
Chuckster01
Member Posts: 873
From: Orlando, FL
Registered: Jan 2014
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posted 09-17-2016 06:51 PM
That is a truly awesome site and I thank you for the link. Now I need a better photo of the left bulkhead behind the CDR's station: CDR PLSS (lower right) and two compartments for Flight Data files above it. In the aft section, from the bottom: CDR OPS; LMP OPS; LMP Lunar Overshoes and ?; CDR Lunar Overshoes, Penetrometer Recording Drum. The photo in this site is just not clear enough to see detail. Any more? |
nasamad
Member Posts: 2121
From: Essex, UK
Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 09-18-2016 10:42 AM
I don't know if higher resolution scans are available, but Paul Fjeld is the guy to ask as he did the originals. |
spaced out
Member Posts: 3110
From: Paris, France
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 09-18-2016 04:43 PM
Chuck, would I be right in assuming you were the lucky winner of the beta cloth stowage assembly pouches on eBay the other week? |
Chuckster01
Member Posts: 873
From: Orlando, FL
Registered: Jan 2014
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posted 09-18-2016 05:47 PM
Yes, you would be correct. So I am trying to research its origin. It would seem only Apollo 15 and 16 used pentrometers on the lunar surface so that is where I am concentrating my search. I am assuming this was a training or prototype and I am sure not flown but history is always important to me. Any assistance is greatly appreciated. |
spaced out
Member Posts: 3110
From: Paris, France
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 09-19-2016 01:28 AM
As you say these penetrometers were used on Apollo 15 and 16 but I didn't manage to find photos showing the same stowage assembly area in Apollo 15.I did find the Apollo 16 photo mentioned above and to my eye the labelling on the beta cloth bag shown there is a perfect match for the one you bought (and outbid me on...) but it may have been the same on Apollo 15 too. Like you I was assuming this was a training item. I saw there was a faint part number on the listing photos but couldn't make out much of it. Maybe it's clearer in person? The Stowage Lists don't seem to be that helpful in this case as they don't give the part numbers of individual components of the stowage assembly (basically a set of pouches strapped together). It might be worth putting the question to Charlie Duke to see if he remembers what happened to these during the flight. A key question would be whether some or all of the bags were actually pulled out to transfer to the LM. In any case it's a great item. |
spaced out
Member Posts: 3110
From: Paris, France
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 09-19-2016 04:25 AM
I realize that you were also assuming this was a training example but I guess there had to be a lingering doubt as to whether it could be flown.In fact looking at the pre-closeout photo I think we can be certain the bag that was sold was not that flown on Apollo 16 at least, as the alignment of the labels is not a match. |
Chuckster01
Member Posts: 873
From: Orlando, FL
Registered: Jan 2014
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posted 09-19-2016 04:36 AM
I am in contact with one of the gentlemen who loaded the LEM for most Apollo missions. He informs me that every mission was loaded by a print for every item and exact stowage locations. He has the print for LM-12 in his possession but that is the only one. I am now hoping that the print for LM-10 can be located. As you mentioned the labels for LM-11 are not an exact match for the one I have as the photo shows "Lunar Overshoes CDR One pair" and mine just says "Lunar overshoes one pair" There is also an additional tag that is so small I can not make it out. The number on this is very clear in person, it is "LDW340-56417-5-1." Regardless of history this is an ultra cool item and no offense I am glad I out bid you. |
spaced out
Member Posts: 3110
From: Paris, France
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 09-19-2016 05:57 AM
I'm glad it went to a good home, and I'm especially glad it didn't end up getting stolen by the person who contacted the seller on the first day of the auction trying to get them to add a buy-it-now price "since this item has no bids".Incidentally, if you're able to get a scan or good photo of that LM-12 stowage print it would definitely be worth getting it to the guys at the Apollo Lunar Surface Journal so that they can make it available to all researchers. |
Chuckster01
Member Posts: 873
From: Orlando, FL
Registered: Jan 2014
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posted 10-05-2018 07:14 PM
I has been just over two years since I purchased this Beta cloth stowage assembly pouch on eBay and I have been searching for its origin ever since. A few months ago I found it in an original NASA photograph of the interior of LM-11 Orion. The photo had a detailed description on the back stating it was taken during testing of the Orion command module. I then cross checked my stowage package with the serial number of the one listed in the stowage list and they did not match. It would seem this one has a missing label that says Commander or CDR Lunar Overshoes and was replaced before the flight.  I then spoke to Charlie Duke by e-mail, I showed him my Beta cloth stowage assembly pouch, the photograph of my stowage package installed in Orion and the closeout photograph of Orion (available online) and asked him if he would be willing to sign this for me and he agreed. I mailed it to him and received it back today. I am so excited to have this great piece of history and I want to thank Charlie Duke for kindly signing this for me. Its history and origin are now solved.  
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Jurg Bolli
Member Posts: 977
From: Albuquerque, NM
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 10-05-2018 09:14 PM
That is one cool item and story to go with it, congratulations for solving the puzzle! |
Rick Mulheirn
Member Posts: 4167
From: England
Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 10-06-2018 04:36 AM
Nice! |
denali414
Member Posts: 593
From: Raleigh, NC
Registered: Aug 2017
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posted 10-06-2018 06:41 AM
Great item and great story on tracking down its history- congrats! |
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