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posted 03-23-2016 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 413 is in   Click Here to Email 413 is in     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just listed: Astronaut owned Apollo 13 crew signed launch cover. Karl Henize estate.

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posted 03-24-2016 07:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for schnappsicle   Click Here to Email schnappsicle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not to question the cover's authenticity, but two things jump out at me when I look at it.

First of all, according the HCAD website, which collects taxes for Houston and all communities within Harris County where JSC is located, Karl Henize took possession of the house at that address on 1/2/1986. Is there a chance it sat in Henize's house for almost 16 years before he decided to stamp his address on it?

Secondly, the Mercury stamps on the cover were issued in 1962. The price to mail a 1 ounce letter went up to 5 cents on January 7, 1963, which would have rendered the stamp on the cover virtually useless in 1970. It makes me wonder how the NASA MSC Stamp Club assembled and printed these covers. Could they have put the stamps on blank covers back in 1962 and printed the current mission's emblem on some of those old covers? Of course, they could have still been printing those Mercury stamps in 1970, but I don't think the USPS prints stamps for more than a few years, if that long.

Anyway, I know the autographs are real and the cover is real, but it just looks odd, especially to someone like me who knows nothing about covers. Then again, maybe the stamp and address add extra value to this cover well beyond the fact that it once belonged to an astronaut.

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posted 03-24-2016 08:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for onesmallstep   Click Here to Email onesmallstep     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nothing odd about the cover; in fact the signatures, cancel (for the Apollo 13 launch) and the fact that it was in an astronaut's collection make it very valuable. The fact that two 4-cent Mercury stamps are on it should be of no concern; at the time of the Apollo 13 mission, the letter rate was indeed 6 cents (not five), so two 4-cent Mercury stamps more than covered the postage.

Putting 'old' stamps on current mail/covers has been done for decades, because technically all postage is good from first printing, no matter what year the stamps are used thereafter - there is no 'expiration' date. So someone had a batch/sheets of the Mercury stamps, and used them on an already produced MSCSC cacheted cover.

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posted 03-24-2016 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A good point or two, however, remember that Dr. Henize was an avid philatelist and probably prepared the cover(s) himself for the Apollo 13 mission.

He would prepare his own covers — purchase them from the MSCSC and applied his own postage stamps on them — and later getting the covers with the proper postal cancels.

Perhaps he wanted to see if the KSC postal department would machine cancel two of the 4-cent Project Mercury stamps together in order to only have space-themed stamps in use. Sometimes cover and stamp collectors do things like this as I have done for many space philatelic events. Just wanted to try something different for their collections, I am thinking, as it was only a 6-cent postage rate in Apr. 1970 for a first class letter.

Using any other prior space-stamp issues, so long as they equal or go over the required first class postage rate, is just fine by me.

Concerning the rubber-stamp address, as you have indicated, perhaps it was more likely added on the cover at a later time to help show that it was from his personal collection.

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posted 03-24-2016 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for onesmallstep   Click Here to Email onesmallstep     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of course as Ken (and other space philatelists like myself) knows, Henize could have used either the Apollo 8 6-cent 'Earthrise' stamp, or even the 10-cent airmail Apollo 11 moon landing stamp (singly) on the cover; perhaps he only had the Mercury stamps on hand. Or he used them for aesthetic or nostalgic reasons.

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posted 03-24-2016 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 413 is in   Click Here to Email 413 is in     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, thanks for the lively discussion guys. This reminds me of both why I never became a philatelist or an ardent autograph collector. It is just too hard! And that comes from someone with a background in computational physics. Seriously I appreciate all of your expertise.

For the reason above, that’s why I remain extremely cautious when adding items like this to my collection. I only purchase from what I feel to be very reliable sources, many of which are active members here on cS. Although I don’t think that authenticity is in question here, all I can add to the debate is that the primary reason I decided to purchase this piece is the fact that its direct origin is from the astronaut’s estate itself being offered through a highly regarded major auction house, and vetted by a well known figure in the space collectibles market, Gregg Linebaugh, who I have dealt with many times before. Strangely enough, my secondary reason for purchasing this particular piece is that I found it aesthetically pleasing to the eye. I think Mr. Henize hit this one right on the mark when he assembled it.

Once again, thanks to all for the lively and interesting commentary.

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posted 03-24-2016 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for onesmallstep   Click Here to Email onesmallstep     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're welcome — glad to be of help. Yes, you sometimes have to do a bit of research/vetting regarding signatures, postmark cancels and even the type of cacheted cover used.

Being an astronaut obviously aided Henize in getting the entire crew to sign after their flight, as the same type of cover discussed here exists with Ken Mattingly's signature as the original CMP, with Swigert added later. See the thread in the cS Stamps and Covers topic Space Cover of the Week 51 from 2010.

Then there are the insurance covers, which are commanding higher premiums today. These were prepared pre-flight by a crew, signed, cancelled on the date of launch, and kept by the astronauts' families as a means of insurance if the crew failed to return. The ones for Apollo 13 feature the mission emblem, 'Lovell Mattingly Haise' below and the astronaut star 'pin' at bottom.

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posted 03-25-2016 12:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for schnappsicle   Click Here to Email schnappsicle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was hesitant to raise the questions I did, but after reading the responses, I'm more than glad I took the plunge. I learned quite a lot from reading the responses everyone posted. Who knew Henize made his own covers. If I knew that, I might have been more tempted to buy it myself.

Again, thanks to all for opening my eyes.

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posted 03-25-2016 03:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 413 is in   Click Here to Email 413 is in     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're in luck. You can buy it yourself. It's on eBay right now!

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posted 03-25-2016 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for micropooz   Click Here to Email micropooz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting story about Karl Henize making his own covers:

Back in 1990 or 1991 a group of us Space Unit folks got together in Houston and had Karl come speak. After the meeting, Karl hung around for our trade session, had a beer, and made some trades for STS-51F covers that he didn't have in his collection.

Some time afterwards Karl sent one of the folks who was in our trade session about 6 to 8 covers that he had made when he participated in the ASSESS II Spacelab Simulation tests in the 1970's. Each had a hand-drawn Karl Henize cachet, mostly playing off the first three letters in ASSESS, if you catch my drift. He said that he had such a good time at our meeting that he wanted each of us who were there to get one of the covers.

Unfortunately I traded mine away to one of the other folks from the meeting who was trying to collect as many of Karl's covers as he could. And double unfortunate - that guy's not on cS. Would love to show some of those on Space Cover of the Week...

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posted 03-30-2016 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 413 is in   Click Here to Email 413 is in     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great story about Henize making his own covers, Dennis. Thanks for sharing.

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posted 03-30-2016 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 413 is in   Click Here to Email 413 is in     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
FYI: Henize Apollo 13 cover ends today. Thanks for looking.

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posted 03-30-2016 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for onesmallstep   Click Here to Email onesmallstep     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow! As of this hour the top bid is $620. The mission, autographs and it coming from an astronaut's collection certainly make this a nice item. In fact, it may reach the amount paid for Apollo 13 insurance covers, which were signed by Mattingly instead of Swigert, and used the same kind of "type 1" cover.

In a thread in the Stamps and Covers Forum in cS from almost ten years ago, someone printed a stamp dealer's ad from 1989 for Apollo insurance covers - and one for Apollo 13 was listed for $49.95(!). How the hobby - and prices - have changed!

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