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Robert Pearlman
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posted 02-19-2004 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Harold H. Hill was a biomedical administrator at NASA's Manned Spacecraft Center/Johnson Space Center in Houston, Texas until he retired in 1982 with more than 20 years of service. During the Gemini and Apollo programs, Hill was responsible for overseeing the transfer and setup of medical supplies between NASA facilities, including the prime recovery ships used to rescue the astronauts and their spacecraft from the ocean after splashdown. In November 2002, Harold Hill passed away at age 84.

collectSPACE is honored to present for sale memorabilia and autographs collected by Harold Hill during his career on the behalf of his family.

The first set of items to be offered will be sold to the highest bidder beginning on February 23, 2004:

http://www.collectspace.com/buyspace/hillcollection.html

Watch for more items from The Harold Hill Collection, including flown artifacts, rare patches and decals, NASA lithographs, recovery ship covers, NASA badges and passes and more, to be offered soon.

Bob M
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posted 02-19-2004 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob M   Click Here to Email Bob M     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice to see so many authentic autographs in one place. These are the kind of items that collectors should be spending their money on and at least two (Ap11 crew & Armstrong BS portrait) should go very high! And nice - for a change - to see autographs being offered that all have a known & solid provenance.

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posted 02-19-2004 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for space-auction.co.uk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some excellent pieces there! The Ed White is really something!!!

Craig

Scott
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posted 02-19-2004 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott   Click Here to Email Scott     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These all sure are nice, Robert. Good luck with the auction.

Paul
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posted 02-19-2004 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul   Click Here to Email Paul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice items, indeed! All I can do is "drool like a hungry dog!" Good luck to anyone who can afford to bid on these pieces! Maybe I'll win the two hundred million dollar lottery!
Wonder if I could trade "Little Buzz" for the A-11 crew signed photo?!

Paul

Scott
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posted 02-19-2004 09:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott   Click Here to Email Scott     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That Apollo XI crew signed portrait is a Gem with a capital "G". Not only does it have a very solid provenance, but it is vintage and Robert said it is in great condition. Whoever obtains it will have a well-known specimen and they will always be able to reference this auction. I only wish I had the money to obtain it. Whoever does will have a real treasure.

Michael
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posted 02-20-2004 01:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Michael   Click Here to Email Michael     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How much do you think the Apollo 11 crew picture will go for?????.....Anybody have a good guess.....I do

Scott
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posted 02-20-2004 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott   Click Here to Email Scott     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my opinion less than $5,000 would be a good deal. Remember it is REAL. It is rare that one of these comes along with such solid provenance.

spaced out
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posted 02-20-2004 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Ed White is an interesting example for the old inscribed vs. un-inscribed preference arguments.

Personally I like this kind of personalisation, where it's not just someone's name but a personal message of thanks to someone that worked on the project. I would value this piece more than a straight un-inscribed picture.

Am I the only one to feel this way?

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posted 02-20-2004 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
By the way - just like to say that this is a nice move by Rob. Putting this stuff on Astro-Auction means that there's no buyer's premiums to pay. This means everyone will be saving 15 to 20% on the equivalents in the upcoming Spring auctions. Also, the timing is just right as getting these in before those Spring auctions come along means the big players still have their funds available.

Can't wait to see what the flown items are going to be...

Scott
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posted 02-20-2004 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott   Click Here to Email Scott     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by spaced out:

Am I the only one to feel this way?

No. Many people feel that way, including me.

I agree completely with your second post, too. Well said.

[This message has been edited by Scott (edited February 20, 2004).]

p.kentzinger
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posted 02-20-2004 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for p.kentzinger   Click Here to Email p.kentzinger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
FANTASTIC ITEMS

I would be in the Race and I hope that I could win something

Good Luck everyone

Pascal.

Philip
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posted 02-21-2004 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello ROBERT,

Do You know if this auction will also have NASA SP-books for sale in the near future ?
Thx in advance & best regards !
Philip
BELGIUM

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Fantastic collection. It is something to see the inscriptions. Note the Collins inscription with Apollo 11 added. These all-too-common-of-late Collins with Apollo 11 added don't match this early example of his "Apollo 11" inscription. It is a welcome history lesson.

Those lucky to obtain any of these items will surely add a cornerstone to their collection.

My favorite of all would probably be the White--great personalization to an Apollo team member. He sure had an artistic flair to his handwriting.

Andrew Messer

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posted 02-21-2004 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PRubin   Click Here to Email PRubin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Andrew

In my judgment, the inscription appears to be in Amrstrong's hand writing.

Phil

Robert Pearlman
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posted 02-21-2004 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Philip - there will be a few SP-books offered though it may be that they are sold through buySPACE or here on the message board. This collection will be sold through a multi-tiered, multi-medium approach. Look for more details soon.

Phil - I believe Andrew was referring to the Collins business suit portrait. The A11 crew photo is indeed inscribed by Armstrong.

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posted 02-21-2004 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for space-auction.co.uk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anybody care to take a guess at how much the Ed White will go for? Probably beyond my lousy government pay cheque, but would be interested in any opinions.

Craig

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posted 02-21-2004 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PRubin   Click Here to Email PRubin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Robert

Thanks for directing me to the Collins business suit photo. I appear to be hypnotized on the Ap-11 crew item.

Andrew- I agree with your comments 100%. Nice to see the real thing (Apollo 11) and not an "Apollo XI" inscription.

Phil

Bob M
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posted 02-21-2004 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob M   Click Here to Email Bob M     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With most of the rarest & most desirable photos personalized to Harold Hill, I wonder how much interest the elitist collectors in our hobby, those who typically shun personalized photos, will have in them? They come with solid provenance & certain authenticity, but some would not want them in their collections because of them being personalized.

Bob Mc.

[This message has been edited by Bob M (edited February 21, 2004).]

Larry McGlynn
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posted 02-21-2004 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Larry McGlynn   Click Here to Email Larry McGlynn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bob,

Good point, but I think that since Robert has taken the time to find out about Harold Hill and his position at NASA, I personally think that the personalization to Hill adds to the autographs.

Consider this, we know who Mr. Hill is and that he was a NASA employee. He was well known in the NASA community. His job put him in direct contact with the astronauts. We now have a direct chain of provenience that enhances the autograph itself. There is a story here that maybe even more interesting than the autograph alone.

I am even interested in these signatures and I don't normally collect autographs.

I think it will be an interesting auction to watch.

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Larry McGlynn
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poolman18
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posted 02-21-2004 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for poolman18   Click Here to Email poolman18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Larry

I most definitely agree with you.

I will also be on the prowl!!


David

Bob M
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posted 02-21-2004 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob M   Click Here to Email Bob M     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Larry,

But a personalization is a personalization, regardless of who it is personalized to. I've heard many collectors say they wouldn't have something personalized to someone else in their collection. And many of the "elitist" collectors, whether or not the personalization contributes to its authenticity, would not want one. From what I've seen, many 1st consider only unpersonalized items, then consider authenticity second. Of course, it should be the other way around.

Bob Mc.

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posted 02-21-2004 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Larry McGlynn   Click Here to Email Larry McGlynn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"From what I've seen, many 1st consider only unpersonalized items, then consider authenticity second. Of course, it should be the other way around."

Bob,

I agree with you and normally I would look at an unpersonalized autograph, but this collection is different. You are right it should be the other way around.

Larry

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Just wanted to say thanks again to Rob - this time for having the auctions end during daytime on a Saturday. I was thinking I'd not be able to see the end of these auctions so it's a very pleasant surprise to see this.

Now all I need to do is win the lottery so that I can actually be participating in those last minutes rather than just watching.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 03-05-2004 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Reminder: the first set of items to be offered from the Harold Hill Collection close for bids beginning tomorrow, Saturday, March 6 beginning approximately at 11am EST (9am MST, 8am PST, 4pm GMT).

Quick links:
http://www.collectspace.com/buyspace/hillcollection.html

Or see seller Collectspace on Astro-Auction.com

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