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Rick Mulheirn
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posted 03-04-2014 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by james watt:
Do the tickets entitle my young grandsons to an autograph and is the photo with Mattingly £20 each?
James, if your grandons are with you I see no reason why they should not bring their own pictures to the signing table. Ken Willougby is keen for as many youngsters as possible to encounter these pioneers.

The photo fee is per photograph... regardless of how many people are in the picture, i.e. one picture with TKM including yourself, your grandsons, your wife, the cat and the kitchen sink... is just £20.

If you ring Ken and he does not answer leave a message or drop him an e-mail and he will get back to you. Failing that drop me an e-mail and I will attempt to answer your query.

mikepf
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posted 03-05-2014 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mikepf   Click Here to Email mikepf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There isn't the remotest chance of my being able to attend this event, but I must say that I am impressed that there are now over 200 replies to the original post. I've watched that number climb and climb, to a number that seems to be way beyond most other topics on cS. This does brings up the question, are there any stats on what was the most popular thread ever on cS? I hope you all have a great time.

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posted 03-05-2014 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for james watt   Click Here to Email james watt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mike, I think you will find there were more than 300 for the Jack Schmitt event in Pontefract. This had to be cancelled though due to no interest, which I cannot understand. Why wouldn't anyone want to meet him? I was disappointed to say the least that this did not happen as he was one I really wanted to meet!

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posted 03-06-2014 02:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for topmiler     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me too, I was definitely interested. Maybe with the success of Mr. Mattingley we could try Mr. Schmitt again. Chance of lifetime.

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posted 03-06-2014 05:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moorouge   Click Here to Email moorouge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rick will have the full details of why Schmitt didn't come to Pontefract, but as I recall it was to do with his fee and the fact that he was prepared only to sign copies of his book. Not surprisingly ticket sales were not sufficient to overcome these conditions.

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posted 03-06-2014 07:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tykeanaut   Click Here to Email Tykeanaut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you are demanding a high fee then it would have been considerate for all to sign photos too. This would hopefully have increased ticket sales to fund his visit in the first place?

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posted 03-06-2014 07:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The problem isn't with the astronaut not wanting to sign photos (or whatever), it is with the audience hinging their attendance on a signature rather than the chance to hear from the person behind the ink scribble.

Memories should always be more valuable than memorabilia.

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posted 03-06-2014 07:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spaceflyer   Click Here to Email Spaceflyer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I totally agree with you Robert. I had in the past the same experience with my events that photos with the astronaut(s) and signature(s) were more important as to listen to the stories the astronauts have to tell!

I had about 20 US-astronauts (three moonwalkers) in the past five years in Germany but a lot of space collectors and space fans refused to spent a few Euros to attend because they have searched only for their advantage.

There are much more costs involved bringing them to Europe as having an event in the US and I have to say that Ken makes a great job bringing these guys to the UK!

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posted 03-06-2014 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tykeanaut   Click Here to Email Tykeanaut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not saying who is wrong or right, but that in my opinion was the unfortunate commercial reason it failed.

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posted 03-06-2014 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crash   Click Here to Email crash     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was really looking forward to meeting and hearing Schmitt. The fact he would only sign his book had no bearing on my keeness to pay up and attend his visit. Some, I feel, were a little too focused on his signing policy than actually meeting the guy. Signatures can be bought but will we now ever meet him? Who knows. A gravely missed opportunity.

Rick Mulheirn
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posted 03-06-2014 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by james watt:
This had to be cancelled though due to no interest
To be more precise, while there was interest to meet Jack Schmitt (I think around 400 lecture tickets were sold) the fee was such that Ken needed to sell another 300 or so.

The Alan Bean event last year was a complete sell out and it is looking like Ken Mattingly will be the same. Ticket sales at these levels would not have been sufficient to secure Jack Schmitt.

I may be wrong but I think Ken needed two successful lectures to make the event viable.

I echo CRASH's and Robert's sentiments about the encounter over the autograph but the reality is — whether we like it or not — Jack Schmitt's decision to sign only his book did have an adverse effect on ticket sales.

For the record, Jack Schmitt, while disappointed he did not make it over last year, did indicate a willingness to do so in the future and such has been the interest in the Charlie Duke, Al Worden, Alan Bean and Ken Mattingly events since I don't think Ken has ruled out another approach at some future date. The "show ain't over till the fat lady sings"... and Ken is warming his tonsils as I speak.

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posted 03-06-2014 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for carl walker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Spaceflyer:
I have to say that Ken makes a great job bringing these guys to the UK!
Are you going to be there in Pontefract, Mr. D? Cheers!

David C
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posted 03-07-2014 12:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for David C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rick Mulheirn:
I echo CRASH's and Robert's sentiments about the encounter over the autograph but the reality is — whether we like it or not — Jack Schmitt's decision to sign only his book did have an adverse effect on ticket sales.
Killed it for me, too far to travel and not get a "proper" autograph (I already have a couple of Schmitt autographs including the book).

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posted 03-07-2014 03:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spaceflyer   Click Here to Email Spaceflyer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by carl walker:
Are you going to be there in Pontefract, Mr. D?
Hey Carl, no I'm not coming to Pontefract because I have to set up a small exhibition on April 12.

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posted 03-08-2014 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BA002   Click Here to Email BA002     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To get back to Jack Schmitt, he's the only living moonwalker I have never met and he eluded me twice in 2012 by not coming to Pontefract and canceling the ASF Apollo 17 event. I was pretty disappointed...

So hereby I solemnly pledge that I wouldn't mind paying for 4 or 5 lecture tickets if he could be persuaded to come to Pontefract no matter whether he signs anything or not.

Couldn't we get some sort of pan-European fundraiser to get him over here?

Robert Pearlman
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I don't know if it's an option for you, and this doesn't rule out other appearances, but Schmitt (and Duke and Mitchell) will be in Spain (Tenerife) this September for the Starmus Festival.

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posted 03-09-2014 04:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BA002   Click Here to Email BA002     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the heads up. I would consider going but I'm not quite sure yet what to make of the program, that is what kind of interaction there will be with the astronauts and other guests.

Rick Mulheirn
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posted 03-14-2014 03:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ken Mattingly arrives in Pontefract exactly four weeks from today.

As is usual with these events, sales of the remaining tickets accelerate as the big day draws closer.

If there are folk without tickets reading this post.... who are intent on going to the lecture, might I suggest you get a move on.

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posted 03-16-2014 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ken tells me somebody has been trying to ring him but has not been leaving any message on his answer phone.

If this should by a collectSPACE member or lurker... please try again and if Ken does not answer leave a message and a contact phone number; he will call you back.

Ken does not however answer witheld/unavailable calls

Rick Mulheirn
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posted 03-23-2014 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
T-19 days to go to dinner with Ken Mattingly and counting.

Sales of the remaining lecture tickets continue to tick over nicely and we are good to go at this time.

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posted 03-23-2014 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for OWL   Click Here to Email OWL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have spoken to Ken this evening and to echo what Rick has said, ticket sales are still going very well.

With less than 3 weeks till the events it is vitally important for collect space members to book their tickets to avoid disappointment.

It is quite a coup that Ken has managed to persuade TK Mattingly to these shores to lecture and sign autographs and both events will be really special.

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posted 03-26-2014 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ken Mattingly has confirmed his flights and ETA. Not long now!

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posted 03-29-2014 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AstroAutos   Click Here to Email AstroAutos     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Still debating what to get Mattingly to sign - what sort of dealer stalls will be present on the day just out of curiosity?

Might save me having to bring an item over to be signed...

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posted 03-30-2014 06:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nick and Bryar Deakin will be there on the day and they are bound to have a bountious selection of images and mementos.

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Yes lots of images; from 10x8s to matted and or framed pieces that include plaques, medallions, patches, FDCs, as seen at the Al Bean event. Apollo 13 images and Apollo 16 images (and a few for STS-4 and 51C).

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posted 03-30-2014 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ticket numbers for the lecture now exceed 400. I think that leaves the last two rows only available in the theatre.

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posted 04-01-2014 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for OWL   Click Here to Email OWL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There will be up to four traders each offering high quality goods for sale.

These will include Luke Wesley Price, who will be bringing signed and unsigned copies of his book on the photographic history of the space shuttle.

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Just a quick one to say that I now have a spare ticket for Saturday's event (friend let me down) but I would like to attend Friday's meal but unfortunately (for me) it is a sell out so if anyone wants to do a deal who bought a ticket for the Friday but cannot attend on the Friday, please let me know.

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posted 04-04-2014 06:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
T-7 days and counting to dinner with Ken Mattingly. All good to go at this time.

Be there ...or be square!

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posted 04-07-2014 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AstroAutos   Click Here to Email AstroAutos     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am fairly sure this was answered already, but what will the professional photo shoot with Mattingly before the dinner cost?

Cannot wait for this event - what an extraordinary opportunity to meet an astronaut I never imagined I would. Thanks Rick for keeping us all 'in the loop'!

Rick Mulheirn
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posted 04-07-2014 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
£20 per photo Shane... regardless of how many folk are in the picture with him.

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posted 04-08-2014 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crash   Click Here to Email crash     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So the dates finally get nearer and I am really looking forward to heading on up to Pontefract. I think it will be great couple of days for us all!

Shane, my advice would be to not wear anything green. It plays havoc with the green screen when the final photo drops out of the printer.

See you all there!!

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Originally posted by crash:
Shane, my advice would be to not wear anything green.
That's ruined Kermit's chances of a decent photo with Ken then.

Rick Mulheirn
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posted 04-09-2014 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it safe to say at this late stage, if anybody reading these posts wishes to attend the lecture on Saturday, they will need to pay by bank transfer and collect at the door.

Too late now for postal purchases.

I guess you could pay at the door but please be aware, there are not many tickets left and if Ken Mattingly's visit is covered on the local BBC "Look North" TV news (and these events usually are)... those that remain will sell quickly.

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posted 04-09-2014 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tykeanaut   Click Here to Email Tykeanaut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That "scuppers" the green Ireland shirt too Shane!

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First time poster, long time lurker!

I'm flying out Friday morning from Dublin and will be there both nights. Can't wait now!

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posted 04-10-2014 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for OWL   Click Here to Email OWL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Having just spent the morning with TK, I can confirm he is safely in the U K and is looking forward to both the dinner and lecture events.

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It'd be nice if someone could put the question to Ken - would he ever consider doing a mail-in signing for a charity/cause of his choice?

There's huge demand for his autograph and whilst it's true that only signing in person does encourage people to turn up at his events the inevitable result is also lots of resales of signatures given out for free.

I don't think he'd be offended by the question so if someone attending or organizing the event could ask it I think many people here would be interested to hear the answer.

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Okay, see you at the bar. Me and Brammers are staying at the dinner event hotel. Rick's buying the first round. (LOL)

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posted 04-10-2014 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lspooz   Click Here to Email lspooz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by spaced out:
...if someone attending or organizing the event could ask it I think many people here would be interested to hear the answer.
While I won't be there, I'd really hope you all make sure that Mattingly only gets asked this once (at least from the cS attendees).


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