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uk spacefan
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posted 06-25-2009 06:38 AM
   
...double shame on you... for also forgetting Harrison Schmitt from the list of interviewees!  |
gliderpilotuk
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posted 06-25-2009 09:32 AM
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Originally posted by AstroAutos:
I saw "NASA: Triumph and Tragedy" tonight on BBC2 and I thought it was absolutely brilliant!...Apollo 8 coverage was particularly good.
Totally agree. The Ap8 coverage - especially the rarity of having the wives on film - was excellent. Also good to see Gus given due recognition "perhaps the most respected all-round astronaut on the program". |
gliderpilotuk
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posted 06-25-2009 09:39 AM
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Hmmmmmm... At least James May got the CM seating order right, unlike Mr Burke last night!
Not difficult given the army of researchers he probably has behind him. He still didn't know the difference behind a "U-2" and a TR-1B. "Well... they're both black, with long wings..."  |
AstroAutos
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posted 06-25-2009 10:14 AM
I apologise for forgetting Schmitt and McCandless in the list of interviewees -- I knew I would forget some of them!  |
uk spacefan
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posted 06-25-2009 12:37 PM
No problem - I'd have to agree with you, it was an excellent programme. I particularly liked the mixed format of his commentary and interviews supplemented with the footage. Hard to believe that it was nearly 40 years ago!! |
Jay Chladek
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posted 06-26-2009 12:51 AM
Even among the U-2 operators today, they do not to refer to the TR-1 as a TR-1 anymore but just a U-2. I talked to a U-2 contingent from Beale AFB at the last Offutt AFB airshow this year and this is what they said. Apparently they changed the designation when they stopped doing flights from some NATO countries that had concerns about staging "U-2" flights from their borders. So the TR-1 designation came about as something that was less of a hot potato term as not everybody at the time knew what a "TR-1" was. Granted the TR-1A had more of a direct data-link download capability from its pods while the U-2Rs at the time (the 1980s) didn't have that capability. TR-1As were also new build airframes in the 1980s while the U-2Rs were built in the late 1960s. Of course the TR-1B was unique in that it is a two seater trainer. I didn't ask at the show if the U-2 drivers call that specific airframe a U-2 or a TR-1 though. |
martinbiddulph
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posted 06-26-2009 06:11 PM
Well done James May, brilliant show ,a lot better than Top Gear. |
nasamad
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posted 06-27-2009 02:15 PM
Amazon UK are listing the DVD of the programme already. Due for release on the 9th July. |
lm5eagle
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posted 06-27-2009 02:47 PM
Thank you, Adam, for the heads up on that one. Well worth adding to the library when available. |
nasamad
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posted 06-27-2009 05:05 PM
It doesn't look like the extended interviews with the astronauts (that were on the BBC website) are on the DVD. Shame, and a bit short sighted of the BBC I think, they could have doubled the running time of the disc with those. |
AstroAutos
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posted 06-27-2009 05:28 PM
I agree - I would have bought the DVD if the extended interviews were on it, but without them, it's just not worth it! |
paulushumungus
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posted 07-01-2009 02:54 AM
TV Viewing for the week:Sunday 5th July 2009 - BBC4 21.00 to 22.00 - Being Neil Armstrong
- BBC4 22.00 to 23.45 - Man on the Moon
Monday 6th July 2009 - BBC2 00.45 to 01.10 - The Sky at Night, The Apollo Programme
- BBC4 19.30 to 20.00 - The Sky at Night, The Apollo Programme (Extended repeat)
- BBC4 20.00 to 20.45 - Space Dogs
- BBC4 20.45 to 22.00 - For All Mankind
- BBC4 22.00 to 23.05 - Apollo Wives
Tuesday 7th July 2009 - BBC4 19.30 to 20.00 - The Sky at Night, Gene Cernan Apollo 17 (Repeat from Dec 2007)
Thursday 9th July 2009 - BBC4 20.00 to 21.00 - Forty years on the Moon
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gliderpilotuk
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posted 07-01-2009 06:35 AM
Thanks Paul. Some interesting viewing there! |
Spoon
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posted 07-03-2009 04:56 PM
The two hour BBC4 documentary, "Sky at Night Apollo 11 - A Night to Remember", which was on a week or so ago (repeated from 2006?) is available to pre-order on DVD.I had mine delivered today by ordering through the BBC Shop a few weeks ago, but it was about £5 more expensive than Amazon.  It is also available now in the US. Very good programme with classic archive material I'm sure you will agree. If anything, it frees up space on the Sky+ box! |
AstroAutos
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posted 07-03-2009 06:09 PM
Does anyone know if "NASA: Triumph and Tragedy" is available on DVD or anything? I saw the programme but would love to have it on disc! |
Paul23
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posted 07-05-2009 04:13 PM
I just watched the Being Neil Armstrong programe on BBC4. Watchable enough but that interview with the barber who sold Neil Armstrong's hair has to rate as one of the most loathsome pieces of television I have ever seen. The guy himself was bad enough for doing it, but why did Andrew Smith joke along with him like it was no big deal. I wonder if Neil Armstrong would have been so generous in his email replies had he known the full picture. Didn't really get the 'moral dilema' thing either, questioning whether it was right or wrong to contact him, then going ahead with it anyway without giving the thought process behind it. |
gliderpilotuk
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posted 07-05-2009 04:45 PM
Yeah the barber thing was a bit too lighthearted. I thought the program was a good effort, with interesting insights like the Lindbergh comparison, but why the flight in the Stearman? At times it was a bit like one of those C4 programs where they go and track down the cast of Star Trek. |
Paul23
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posted 07-05-2009 05:00 PM
Ha, thats exactly what I was thinking, all it needed was a hairy halfwit from Bristol and it would have been 'Bring Back...Apollo'!The other thing that I noticed was they referred to Walt Cunnigham as an 'Apollo 9 Astronaut'. I can't help but think that was a pretty elementary thing to get wrong, especially as they had already interviewed Rusty Schweikert |
AstroAutos
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posted 07-05-2009 05:47 PM
What did you all think of the 'Man on the Moon' programme on tonight? I thought it was just okay, as a lot of the pictures and video footage is stuff we've all seen so many times before!Also the interviews done were clearly done at least 15 years ago as Rocco Petrone was interviewed and he died in 2006 - also Aldrin, Steve Bales, Gene Kranz and Charlie Duke looked a lot younger than they do know for sure! |
David Bryant
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posted 07-05-2009 05:48 PM
Totally agree, only more so! The comparison between the 'Being NA' programme and the excellent one that followed it was really stark. A wasted opportunity that did little to fire the imagination of those who were not fortunate enough to have lived through those wonderful days... |
Rick Mulheirn
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posted 07-05-2009 07:17 PM
Spaceflight might not be Andrew Smith's primary area of interest but I thought his BBC 4 program "Being Neil Armstrong" was excellent. I met Andrew in February of this year and and enjoyed an excellent meal with him, Andy Green and Charlie Duke amongst others. He is a very interesting guy with a wonderful calm manner. I thought his handling of tonight's subject matter was full of insight and handled with a sensitivity I found lacking at times in his book "Moondust". Nice one Andrew! |
gliderpilotuk
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posted 07-06-2009 03:00 AM
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Originally posted by AstroAutos:
What did you all think of the 'Man on the Moon' programme on tonight?..... the interviews done were clearly done at least 15 years ago as Rocco Petrone was interviewed and he died in 2006 - also Aldrin, Steve Bales, Gene Kranz and Charlie Duke looked a lot younger than they do know for sure!
1994 production I believe. |
Colin Anderton
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posted 07-06-2009 01:16 PM
Yes, it was 1994. This was, in fact, the BBC's 25th anniversary programme.Colin.
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Rick Mulheirn
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posted 07-06-2009 05:29 PM
If any cS member has an e-mail address for Andrew Smith could they contact me off-list? |
AstroAutos
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posted 07-06-2009 05:48 PM
What did everyone think of the viewing on BBC4 this evening?I personally thought the 'Space Dogs' programme was simply magnificent - very detailed and I never actually knew so many dogs had travelled to space (the only one I knew before-hand was of course Laika!) The 'For All Mankind' programme was also brilliant - although it would have been nice to have seen the astronauts as they were being interviewed as it was guess-work to know who was talking as each clip seemed to vary from one mission to another - very good though! I also watched the 'Apollo Wives' programme which was just okay, I mean you would have liked it if you are the type you likes watching women talk about their divorces and that - I thought it was funny though the way all the wives tended to reply back when asked how they felt about their husbands flying to the moon by saying they were 'Proud, Thrilled and Happy!' What did everyone else think of tonight's programmes? |
gliderpilotuk
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posted 07-07-2009 07:36 AM
An outstanding evening of space TV. Like you I really enjoyed the "Space Dogs" programme. I never knew about the dogs being ejected from the spacecraft and parachuted back to Earth in their own "capsules". The advances made by the Russians, the numerous dog-flights (and their compassion for the animals they were testing) are often glossed-over in the recounting of space history. Some of the footage was unique."For All Mankind" was a little dated and I agree could have benefited from the faces of the astronauts. Not helped by the dumb announcer who described it as "conversations with the 24 men who have walked on the moon". Duh. I wasn't especially looking forward to the Space Wives programme but enjoyed it. Some touching moments in the references to John and Annie Glenn's enduring relationship and the interview with Martha Chaffee. It was a worthy programme IMO to highlight the wives' contribution and the stresses they endured. |
AstroAutos
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posted 07-07-2009 08:43 AM
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I never knew about the dogs being ejected from the spacecraft and parachuted back to Earth in their own "capsules".
Yeah, that was really cool - they sure were brave dogs, I'll never know how some of them dogs managed to survive the trauma of the launch and ejections! quote:
Not helped by the dumb announcer who described it as "conversations with the 24 men who have walked on the moon". Duh.
I agree. I had to wince when I heard her say that - some people will just never learn I guess! |
AstroAutos
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posted 07-09-2009 03:07 PM
Did anyone watch '40 Years on the Moon' on BBC4 this evening?I thought it was quite good, but very like some of the other programmes we have seen this past week - it just flew through Apollos 1, 8, 11 and 13 with the others hardly getting a mention, but still I wasn't disappointed! By the way,t his Saturday evening at 8pm on BBC Radio 4 there will be a programme called 'Walking on the Moon' and consists of an interview with Buzz Aldrin! |
Paul23
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posted 07-09-2009 04:38 PM
I'll be catching up with some of the shows that have been on BBC4 over the weekend. I watched the Gene Cernan Sky At Night earlier this evening and really enjoyed it. Then again I guess he could talk about dry rot for half an hour and make it sound interesting!I'm sure when Charlie Duke was over for the last Autographica he mentioned he was doing a radio interview for the BBC, not sure if thats been and gone though. |
wdw
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posted 07-10-2009 05:05 AM
Can I take this opportunity to flag up a programme on BBC Radio 4 tomorrow evening. In my day job (when I'm not doing Apollo stuff), I work at the BBC in Scotland. I was asked to help out with a radio archive programme which turned out to be a great experience. The programme is "Walking on the Moon" and is part of the "Archive on 4" strand. It goes out at 8:00 pm, 11 July. It is presented by Buzz Aldrin and we concentrate in trying to portray the difficulty of the landing. Of particular interest is the fact that we got access to the NASA Oral History archive and used their recordings, which allowed us to have clips from Armstrong and Collins. I commend it to you. |
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posted 07-10-2009 06:06 AM
Did anyone catch the BBC4 Horizon "40 Years on the Moon" programme? I didn't think that the programme was very good, in that it jumbled together a lot of sequences that have been seen before from the "25 Years in Space" and other BBC documentaries. What I did find interesting to see was clips from "One Small Step" a documentary from way back (late 70's-early 80's), which was nice to see again. But it was the clips they used from the BBC Apollo 11 Tenth anniversary documentary that caught my attention. This documentary was (and still is) the best I have seen on the Apollo program. It was presented by James Burke and broadcast in two parts. I have (along with several colleagues in the UK) been trying to find a good quality copy of the two programmes for years. At least now I have seen some clips it proves that the BBC has preserved a copy....now, how do we go about getting them to re-broadcast it?! All in all the series on BBC4 is going well and much appreciated. Does anyone know what their plans are for broadcast July 20th/21st? |
paul.i.w
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posted 07-10-2009 07:18 AM
There doesn't seem to be much on at all on 20th/21st from what I can see. It looks like on the 20th ITV have 'Moonshot: The flight of Apollo 11', a dramatised documentary. On Film 4 is 'Destination Moon'. And on the 21st - nothing. I haven't looked at the radio listings, however.Mind you I will probably still have some of the recent programmes to watch that I have had to record. I have particularly enjoyed the Neil Armstrong documentary, and am most of the way through Space Wives. So plenty more to catch up on! |
robsouth
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posted 07-10-2009 01:53 PM
After a while all of these shows begin to look very similar which is why, "Being Neil Armstrong", by Andrew Smith was a nice change. Loved the home made film footage of the Saturn V blasting a hole in the sky, never seen that before. Schweickart's admission that he hates talking about Apollo was a bit sad. Compare his attitude to that of Cernan's who really gave you a feeling of what it was like to be there during his interview on the, "Sky At Night" show.As for the barber interview, so some guy got some of Neil's hair, big deal, this is celebrity culture in the modern era where everything is for sale. If you want to spend $50 on a strand of hair that might or might not be from Armstrong's head then knock yourself out, I personally have better things to spend my money on. |
Paul23
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posted 07-10-2009 05:23 PM
For those that may have missed it (I nearly did) James May was on the Jonothan Ross show tonight. Some of the interview was around Top Gear, cars etc but a good section of it concerned his U2 flight and his interest in Space exploration.Unusually for this show, he was allowed to talk uninteruppted during the space portion of the interview so I'd say it is worth watching. |
Blackarrow
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posted 07-11-2009 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by gliderpilotuk:
1994 production I believe.
Paul (or anyone else who watched "Man on the Moon"): did this repeat showing include the introductory remarks by Neil Armstrong? When the programme was shown in July, 1994 (on BBC 2) it was in 2 parts, each separately introduced by Neil Armstrong who talked to the camera for a few minutes. I was on holiday when the repeat was shown last week, and my Sky Plus recording starts abruptly with the title "Man on the Moon." Did they delete the Armstrong intro, or did my recording miss it? |
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posted 07-11-2009 12:51 PM
Also, on the "Being Neil Armstrong" program with Andrew, anyone notice that they had Walt Cunningham down as "Apollo 9" when his name caption came up not, Apollo 7. |
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posted 07-11-2009 03:12 PM
I can confirm the Man on the Moon documentary didn't include that intro - even though the BBC4 announcer said the programme was to be 'introduced by Neil Armstrong'.Maybe it was just a simple technical slip-up or maybe they just didn't have permission to reuse the Armstrong clip from 1994? Strange... |
Paul23
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posted 07-11-2009 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by StarDome:
Also, on the "Being Neil Armstrong" program with Andrew, anyone notice that they had Walt Cunningham down as "Apollo 9" when his name caption came up not, Apollo 7.
I did, I was round at my parents tonight and it was on in the background so I was ready to get all clever clever to point out the mistake only to find they had aleady corrected it! Was interesting watching the early part of the programe with my Dad though, he was working out in Ohio at the time of Apollo 11 and went to Neil Armstrong's homecoming parade after the mission. |
mmmoo
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posted 07-14-2009 05:18 PM
From Wednesday 15th July ITV have a short news programme every night after News At Ten that re-creates the news on Apollo 11 from that day in 1969See: ITV Mission To The Moon |
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posted 07-15-2009 12:45 AM
Just to let you all know, BBC 1 on 17th July 7pm - "The One Show" are dedicating the whole show to celebrate 40 years of man on the moon.They contacted me recently to get some comments from Charlie Duke and Helen Sharman but both are very busy, especially Charlie who tells me he is swamped at the moment. No surprise there! |
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