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uzzi69
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posted 06-01-2002 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for uzzi69   Click Here to Email uzzi69     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was wondering if anyone else caught the CNN report on Lance Bass of N'Sync last night?

It reported that he had gone thru several health tests and was dubbed healthy to fly on a space flight. In the report they showed him in the centrifuge taking some serious g's.

He had a press confrence, and announced his desire to fly with the Russians as soon as October.

It seems that Radio Shack has decided to sponser him, in part at least. The way the reporter sounded Lance is ready to start his 5 months training with the Russians. That would put him on schedual to fly in October.

The interview was a little comical...I'm not sure he's sure about what he's getting into.... he stated that the centrifuge was exactly like a launch, and he knew it was dangerous, but there were alot of smart people involved.

I'm sure any of us would give our eyeteeth to do the same, but this deal is too much like a Disney channel movie for me. ( just jealous, I guess).

All I can say is I wish him good luck, and Godspeed!

Regards, Bill uzzi69

randy
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posted 06-02-2002 12:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for randy   Click Here to Email randy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another example of the filthy rich getting to do what the rest of us can just dream about. Disgusting.

BigWaveDave
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posted 06-02-2002 03:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigWaveDave   Click Here to Email BigWaveDave     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, I saw the interview, and Bill you hit it right on the head...we're all just jealous. I guess there's not to many better people that could be nominiated for this that would get the younger(real young)generation interested and excited in Space exploration then an N'sync guy. So I guess if we look at this as survival of the species instead of a thrill ride for an individual he's our best choice.I just wish he could ...uh...uh ...uh speak as well as he can sing.
I believe the comentator did say that the Russians would probably chose one of their own over Bass anyway.
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posted 06-02-2002 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Werb   Click Here to Email Werb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with Dave, but I can also see that if the Russians pass him up for one of their own they too are missing out on the chance to do some promoting.
As for being jealous of him? Not me. That would be where I agree with Randy. My 14 yr old daughter is into their music 110%, and I seem to be forced to hear it way to often for me to be jealous. But hey, if it gets the younger generation backing Space Exploration, well there's none better than a famous pop star to do it. Let's just stay tuned and see how it plays out.

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eurospace
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posted 06-02-2002 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eurospace   Click Here to Email eurospace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BigWaveDave:
I believe the comentator did say that the Russians would probably chose one of their own over Bass anyway.

I don't think so. Unless this domestic pop star could come up with the same amount of money.

And even Bass seems to be short of his own, as he needs sponsors. As does Ms. Garver.

The times where they could fly someone for the sole purpose of propaganda or simply popularizing spaceflights are simply over, I think.


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Rodina
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posted 06-03-2002 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rodina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Lance Bass clearly has the money, he's just smart enough to see about defraying the costs by a few million bucks. Nothing wrong with that.

And what the hell is wrong with the filthy rich doing what we only dream about? It's not like he's breaking a law, flouting public decency or undermining the sacred institution of marriage (I'll let ol' Pete Knight worry about that one).

Philip
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posted 06-03-2002 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I already started this topic earlier but here I want to point out the Russians prefer that their "Space Participants" train for about 6 months before flying on the Soyuz ... After their training at Yuri Gagarin Cosmonaut Training Center they visit the ISS modules at NASA ...
Looks like time is running out to let him participate on the Soyuz TMA-01 mission of Oktober 24 2002 ... Which by the way is a TEST-flight of the Soyuz TMA vehicle, it will also be the first time an European Space Agency Astronaut participates on a Russian Test-mission ... but Frank De Winne is a Senior Test Pilot of Belgian Air Force.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 06-03-2002 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Russian Space Agency press secretary Sergei Gorbunov was quoted as saying: "The state interdepartmental commission makes the decision about the admittance to the flight. After it gives positive conclusion, the procedure begins of the agreement of the candidature of tourist with the partners on the project ISS. This is long procedure. Now only a citizen of Russia will have time to pass it. For the foreigners, the train has left".

On the issue of money: N'Sync as a band is listed by Forbes to have earned $42 million (2001 report, presumeably before taxes). With five members in the band, that leaves about $8.4 million per -- not exactly enough to buy a seat on the Soyuz.

Cliff Lentz
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posted 06-03-2002 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cliff Lentz   Click Here to Email Cliff Lentz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I understand that he is looking for sponsors. Destiny Productions and Radio Shack have been named, but I think any delay is because of money. Also He did have surgery to correct an irregular heatbeat, something his publicist said everyone knew for quite some time now.

I'm trying to put a positive slant on this. Maybe a teen idol in space will ignite the spark in the next generation of voters to vote for space exploration rather than question it all the time. And yet I agree, the filthy rich are just buying repectability. I want to believe that humans earn the right to go into space. I would not want to be remembered for being just a thrill-seeker, but rather someone who contributed to the history of space exploration.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 06-03-2002 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Space tourists will never replace career astronauts, just as airline passengers will not replace the need for pilots (test or otherwise).

History has always dictated that the rich pave the way for the masses. The first automobiles, the first computers, the first plane tickets were all priced out of the reach of the average joe. But as demand grew and supply increased, prices dropped.

Space flight will be opened to almost everyone given enough time. We've taken the first baby steps -- let's be patient as we learn to walk and then run...

Rodina
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posted 06-03-2002 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rodina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

First, there is no way Lance Bass doesn't have $20M available to him. If he says otherwise, he's doesn't want it bad enough. Not that it won't cost him a good chunk of his hide, but the $8.4M figure is 2001 figure and they were as huge, or more so, in 1999 and 2000. I could securitize his future earnings and pull out $20M without thinking twice. If he wants Ferraris and girls and Palm Beach when he gets back, he may well not have enough to do both, but if he wants $20M to ride the rocket, he's got it.

I appreciate the reverence for astronauts around here, but Lance Bass - as annoying and vapid as he is - flying into space won't make him an astronaut any more than his flying to London on a 777 makes him a pilot, even if he's REALLY close to the cockpit. Being an astronaut is something you need to earn, but that doesn't mean that travelling into space should be. It's something you ought to be able to buy like a house or orange juice or any other commodity worth having.

Astronauts are great and special people, but if Lance Bass or Tom Hanks or Steven Tyler can wake up one morning and decided he wants to be travel into space and just write a check to do it, and then gets a hundred times the media exposure and public recognition than Chang-Diaz or Jim Voss or Susan Helms or Ox Van Hoften wants, despite a life time of work, and that means space is more accessible to everyone else - and let's us start settling the Moon and Mars a little bit faster - so be it.

tegwilym
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posted 06-03-2002 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tegwilym   Click Here to Email tegwilym     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lance Bass won't go into space. It's all a hoax...just like the moon landings!

Tom

Cliff Lentz
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posted 06-03-2002 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cliff Lentz   Click Here to Email Cliff Lentz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If space travel becomes that easy to attain (or buy) are we, the space memorbilia collectors going to be an endangered species?

Personally I would like to have an autograph from everyone (X-15 pilots too, OK) that has every been in space. Would I feel that way if it becomes the "Bungee Jumping" fad of this decade. I can't say.

As far as reverence goes, I respect anyone who flies (test pilots, astronauts, whoever). I guess I would have to respect Lance if he goes. At least for that!

Robert Pearlman
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posted 06-03-2002 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rodina:
First, there is no way Lance Bass doesn't have $20M available to him. If he says otherwise, he's doesn't want it bad enough. Not that it won't cost him a good chunk of his hide, but the $8.4M figure is 2001 figure and they were as huge, or more so, in 1999 and 2000.

Not that I have any insider information (honestly, I don't) but its a common misconception that celebrities, by their very nature, are multi-millionaires. Between agents, promoters, personal assistants and the celebrity "way of life," I would not be surprised if Lance's total net worth was no more than a few million. (And the Forbes figure cited was supposedly total net worth, not just for the year.)

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I appreciate the reverence for astronauts around here, but Lance Bass - as annoying and vapid as he is - flying into space won't make him an astronaut any more than his flying to London on a 777 makes him a pilot, even if he's REALLY close to the cockpit.

The term astronaut (and more appropriately, we should be using the term cosmonaut, as tourists launch on a Russian Soyuz) refers to an altitude acheived, not a certain training regiment or a title of honor. That's why there are X-15 astronauts, NASA astronauts, US astronauts (a.k.a. payload specialists), and Russian cosmonauts.

And let's not forget that space tourists do go through training that is far from a "simple walk in the park." They may pay for their ride, but they earn their seat.

Rodina
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posted 06-03-2002 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rodina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I hit the lottery next week (and I will), believe me Robert you are going to be getting a call from me. But I would, out-of-hand, refuse to style myself an astronaut, however long standing NASA's 50 mile rule (or 100 km/62 mi or whatever it is these days). I've seen some completely untrained folks represent themselves in court - and do a brilliant job of it - but they still aren't "lawyers."

(You aren't, strictly speaking, even your own "lawyer" when you represent yourself - you are choosing to "represent yourself").

[This message has been edited by Rodina (edited June 03, 2002).]

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