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Robert Pearlman
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posted 09-12-2001 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The following was posted to the Reno Air Races website today:

"We are currently standing by to hear if the Federal Aviation Administration will in fact lift restrictions on civil air traffic as anticipated. We will post information here as soon as it is available. We are still preparing to continue qualifying aircraft today, with the Air Races and Air Show running on schedule Thursday through Sunday."

For those planning on attending (myself included) even if flights resume Friday, it will be interesting which, if any, astronauts decide to ultimately attend. Until further information is received, the sightings calendar will not be updated (in regards to Reno).

Tomy1
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posted 09-12-2001 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tomy1   Click Here to Email Tomy1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Robert:

According to the latest CNN announcment,09/12/01 6:10pm, there will be NO flights schedule today and possibly tomorrow until a "proper" security plan is in place at ALL airports. My question is if you heard anything from Reno concerning refunds for tickets to the various "clubs", parking, admission and dinners?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 09-12-2001 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At this time, the races are still scheduled to proceed:

1515 hrs PDT Wednesday 12 Sept 2001

Due to the flight restrictions in effect since Tuesday 11 September suspending flight operations at Reno Stead Field, the usual criteria for placing aircraft into race heats based on their qualifying times will not be used this year.

Instead, each racing class (Biplane, Formula One, T-6, Unlimited, and Jet) will separately establish criteria for race pairings.

Class officers and members are meeting to formalize the criteria for the respective classes. Race pairings based on these criteria are expected to be available late in the afternoon of Wednesday 12 Sept. They will be published on the 2001 Results page when available.

1345 hrs PDT Wednesday 12 Sept 2001

Bill Eck, Chairman of the Board of the Reno Air Racing Association has announced that the Department of Defense and FAA have not yet released the national airspace to civil flight operations. The Reno Air Racing Association has been in contact with government representatives and local FAA officials in order to expedite as much as possible our ability to hold the Races later this week.

Eck indicated that "loosening" of the flight restrictions had already begun, and that further improvement was expected by Thursday morning.

Representatives from each of the classes racing this year at Reno are currently meeting with RARA to determine the most expeditious way to complete qualifying and begin racing as soon as possible.

Eck reiterated that "we are here to race airplanes," and that it is still the intention of the Reno Air Racing Association to proceed with the Air Races and Air Show to the fullest extent possible within the limitations being imposed by the nature of the situation.

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posted 09-12-2001 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LuvAnEVA   Click Here to Email LuvAnEVA     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well to ease some of the questions relating to the astronauts. Stead Field and the RARA released this information.

"Our participants, fans, and especially the Astronauts have all asked us to not allow this cowardly terrorist attack to impact our event. We have elected to move forward as scheduled."

If it all possible I'm sure they will all be there.

Michael

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posted 09-12-2001 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tegwilym   Click Here to Email tegwilym     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure what is going on with Reno for me even if planes do fly.

I just found out this morning that I'm losing my job on Friday. Our company is getting bought out by a larger one, and they originally told us that we were ok in the Seattle office, but now I find out that they are closing our office since it costs too much.
Wonderful timing that they decide to let us all go, the day after the end of the world....

Crap.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 09-12-2001 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Having recently gone through a similar experience, if you ever feel the need to talk to someone, my e-mail box (and phone, if requested) are always available. I found my contact with friends gave me the additional boost needed to keep hope and spirits high.

I know better things are waiting for you just around the next corner.

JAE
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posted 09-12-2001 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JAE     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I too have suffered your job loss fate, in 1997, and survived two others in the past two years. If you ever feel the need to talk or vent, just let me know. I'd be glad to offer any assistance.

I second Robert's comments too. After I lost my position I moved to bigger and better things.

All the best to you,

Jeff

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Tom:

My thoughts are with you on the loss of your job. Thats terrible.

As far as Reno its all so up in the air. From an Air Race standpoint, its looking pretty iffy it'll actually go. I also wouldnt hold out any hope of a refund even if they do cancel it. An astronauts listmember was trying to ask someone in the tickets office an unrelated question and the lady there jumped down her throat and cut her off and told her "Let me cut you off RIGHT NOW and tell you under NO circumstances will there be ANY refunds". Now if the whole races are shut down that may be a different story.

From a personal standpoint, Im still stranded in Houston and only by the gracious assistance from a fellow collector locally safely tucked into a Motel near JSC (which has been shut down by the way). The flight situation is iffy at best, and even though I have a re-booked reservation for Friday I am not confident they flights will be operable then either. If they are not, then it looks like I may need to rent a car to get home. And of course, this is predicate on the races even getting on.

Again, this is frustrating but my problems cerrtainly pale in comparison. I have a lot to be thankful for, no doubt about it. I wasnt on one of the 4 flights, nor near any of the carnage like some here. Im in a room, and getting my meals.

My best to all.

Al

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posted 09-12-2001 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tegwilym   Click Here to Email tegwilym     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for all the kind words guys, I think I have really met some good friends through this hobby! I just wish I could meet some of you in person in Reno, but that isn't looking good now.

I don't think the full impact of the job loss has really hit me yet, I'm still all screwed up from yesterdays WTC stuff. Being a pilot myself, it freaks me out whenever I see that video of the plane crashing into the building and just getting swallowed up. What a horrible time this is....

Robert Pearlman
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posted 09-13-2001 09:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
0740 hrs Thursday 13 Sept 2001

Flight restrictions are being lifted as of 1100 hrs EDT [8 AM Reno time]. Racing will commence at Reno Stead Field at 0900 hrs.

tegwilym
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posted 09-13-2001 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tegwilym   Click Here to Email tegwilym     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm afraid I won't be there again this year. Southwest isn't flying today still, and if they do fly tomorrow, I'm sure I won't get out on the plane I have the ticket for. I'll try to get a refund and try again next year.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 09-13-2001 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
0930 hrs Thursday 13 Sept 2001

Flying at Reno Stead Field is still suspended. We will resume as soon as possible, and will post updates here.

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Reno seems to be wavering whether the Races will proceed. I'll post the latest when its known.

I am still scheduled to fly to Reno on Friday evening. The airline I am flying has confirmed my flight is available and the airports are open. If the Races proceed, I will be there Saturday.

Tomy1
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posted 09-13-2001 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tomy1   Click Here to Email Tomy1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BAD NEWS!!!!!

1515 09/13/01

I just spoke with Susan who is coordinating the astronaut dinner. The dinner has been cancelled, refunds will be mail as soon as possible.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 09-13-2001 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Apollo Astronaut Reunion dinner has been cancelled. No one but Rusty Schweickart was able to make it to Reno (he drove). Refunds will soon be issued.

(On a personal note, I have cancelled my trip to Reno as well.)

tegwilym
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posted 09-13-2001 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tegwilym   Click Here to Email tegwilym     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just cancelled my flight for tomorrow also.
I'm thinking they should just cancel the whole race this year.

Geez....what a sad week this has become.

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posted 09-13-2001 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cindys_1   Click Here to Email Cindys_1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AT this point, I think it is the prudent thing to do, cancelling the races.
Every other major sporting event has shut down for the weekend.
And not because we are still "afraid" but because of respect for the people who lost lives.

I hope everyone gets some kind of monetary reimbursement.

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Cindy

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posted 09-14-2001 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for albatron@aol.com   Click Here to Email albatron@aol.com     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Reno Air Races were officially cancelled this afternoon at 3PM.

tegwilym
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posted 09-15-2001 12:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tegwilym   Click Here to Email tegwilym     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I guess that was a good thing to do. I'll see you guys there next year then!

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I thought Id share this. In regards to the Astronaut banquet, I was originally told no tickets would be made up. Well on Wednesday they arrived at my house (so I would have been there already had it gotten off). But the interesting thing is, on the letter accompanying the tickets at the bottom:

NO AUTOGRAPHS ALLOWED - please respect the astronauts wishes by not asking for any.

I wonder if the free signers knew of this? I'll ask one.

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