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Topic: Space Cover 160: Mercury-Atlas 7 USS Pierce
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micropooz Member Posts: 1171 From: Washington, DC, USA Registered: Apr 2003
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posted May 06, 2012 06:38 PM
Space Cover of the Week, Week 160 (May 6, 2012) Space Cover #160: MA-7 USS PierceThe 50th anniversary of Mercury-Atlas 7 (aka - Aurora 7) with Scott Carpenter onboard, is right around the corner! So let's take a look at a cover from that flight. Most of you know that Aurora 7 landed 402 km downrange from the planned splashdown point, and took quite a while to recover. Carpenter was picked up by helicopters from the planned prime recovery ship, the USS Intrepid. The closest ship to the splashdown was the destroyer USS Farragut, however, it did not have the proper boat and aircraft crane to hoist Aurora 7 out of the water. About 6 hours after the landing, the destroyer USS John R Pierce successfully recovered Aurora 7. Since the Pierce was planned to be a secondary recovery ship, few covers were postmarked onboard the Pierce for the capsule recovery. Couple that with the demand for covers postmarked onboard a ship that actually recovered a capsule, and one finds that USS Pierce covers for the recovery are scarce. My current USS John R. Pierce cover is shown above. How many covers were actually postmarked onboard the Pierce? Nobody seems to know for sure, and I've even heard speculation that there could not have been more than ten. This is the third Pierce that I have owned (the previous two can be seen here and here). Since I've had three different ones in my collecting life, I'd tend to think that there must be more than ten Pierces out there. So, let's do a census! Who else has a Pierce (or more)? Please respond if you do, and even post images if you can. And if yours is one of my previous two Pierces (I don't remember who those went to), please note that as well, so we don't double account those. This obviously won't be a complete census, but could give us an order-of-magnitude estimate. Thanks gang! |
Eddie Bizub Member Posts: 28 From: Kissimmee, FL USA Registered: Aug 2010
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posted May 06, 2012 08:56 PM
I have one Dennis. Don't have it here so I can't scan it. Front has no cachet and the back has just a hint of their cachet. I do also have a USS Farragut cover. No cachet at all. Jane Beville also had a Pierce. We sold her the one that Dick Learn had owned. Not sure where that ended up. |
yeknom-ecaps Member Posts: 400 From: Northville MI USA Registered: Aug 2005
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posted May 06, 2012 09:37 PM
Here is a Goldcraft Cachet for USS John R. Pierce. I know of two of the GCC covers and would assume there are more out there. I also have one like Eddie - no cachet on front, faded ship cachet on the back. |
Ross Member Posts: 309 From: Australia Registered: Jul 2003
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posted May 07, 2012 08:42 AM
I have two covers. The first appears to be Dennis's old cover that has since been signed by Carpenter. I bought this at a RR auction. The second has a plain front with quite a prominent ship's cachet on the back.So far that makes at least 8 and possibly 9 so the so called 10 is definitely short of the mark. So far Eddie's USS Farragut is the only one that I've seen. Does anyone else have one. This mission was also significant for us collectors as it was the first mission for which covers were available from most of the Recovery ships, not to mention several that were not involved. |
yeknom-ecaps Member Posts: 400 From: Northville MI USA Registered: Aug 2005
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posted May 07, 2012 10:44 AM
Ross, I have a USS Farragut cover as well - addressed to the same person as Eddie's and has the same overcancel. |
cosmos-walter Member Posts: 349 From: Salzburg, Austria Registered: Jun 2003
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posted May 07, 2012 06:15 PM
Dennis, I have two USS John R. Pierce covers postmarked on 5/24/1962. One is addressed to Capt. H. F. Rommel. The other one has a stamped address label of Jerri Chaivoe from New York. Both are franked with a Mercury stamp and have the printed cachet on their back.Probably It would pay to send one of them to a Scott Carpenter signing. |
micropooz Member Posts: 1171 From: Washington, DC, USA Registered: Apr 2003
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posted May 10, 2012 07:47 PM
This is great, guys! Keep those Pierce sightings coming!And Ross - yes, I had that cover signed by Carpenter at the 2005 autograph show in New Jersey. Glad it went to a good home! |
stevedd841 Member Posts: 107 From: millersville, maryland, usa Registered: Jul 2004
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posted May 12, 2012 08:01 AM
Plain Jane USS John R. Pierce cover, unaddressed, with PM hand cancel on astronaut Scott Carpenter's mission recovery date, May 24, 1962. A USS John R. Pierce black rubber stamped cachet is centered on reverse of the cover as shown in the next scan.  Reverse of the Plain Jane cover pictured above has a centered ship's black rubber stamped cachet. The same black ship's cachet is applied to the Goldey cover that follows.  A George Goldey cachet cover for USS John R. Pierce, signed by astronaut Scott Carpenter, is shown on his mission recovery date, May 24, 1962. The ship's rubber stamped black cachet pictured above is also on the reverse of this cover. Note, USS John R. Pierce did not recover Carpenter but did recovery his spacecraft, Aurora 7, thus becoming the Primary Recovery Ship for his MA-7 flight. USS Intrepid's recovery helo recovered Carpenter on the recovery.  Two more covers are shown for Dennis' USS John R. Pierce cover census for Scott Carpenter's mission recovery. Best regards, fellow anchor clankers, Steve. |
micropooz Member Posts: 1171 From: Washington, DC, USA Registered: Apr 2003
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posted May 12, 2012 04:55 PM
Okay, I've put together a spreadsheet of the responses so far. We have 11 Pierce covers recorded, so that blows the "less than ten" theory. There are likely more out there than the eleven we have here. If any of you want the spreadsheet in native format (Excel), please e-mail me. I will update the spreadsheet if any more responses come in.Looks like we have two Goldey cachets (do you guys really think that Goldey just sent two to the Pierce, or more?). Seven are no-cachet (with varying resolution of the ship's rubber stamped cachet on the reverse). One has the Ship's Cachet applied to the front of the cover (obverse side) as opposed to the reverse. One has a typed cachet (the one I highlighted in the article above). Eddie Bizub, I think the Jane Beville Pierce cover may have been my second Pierce cover, but I cannot remember for sure. Look familiar to you? |
yeknom-ecaps Member Posts: 400 From: Northville MI USA Registered: Aug 2005
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posted May 12, 2012 06:44 PM
Pooz the second Goldcraft I know of wasn't Steve's so there are three known Goldcraft - and I do bet more. |
Eddie Bizub Member Posts: 28 From: Kissimmee, FL USA Registered: Aug 2010
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posted May 12, 2012 07:24 PM
Dennis I do not remember the cover we sold Jane but it came out of Dick Learn's collection. Honestly I do not think that was her cover. Jane always collected the most pristine covers and would not have purchased a cover with the toning that your cover has...no matter how rare the cover was. |
NAAmodel#240 Member Posts: 118 From: Charleston, SC USA Registered: Jun 2005
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posted June 15, 2012 08:14 PM
I have three Pierce (one is a Goldey) and a Farragut. Also a Pierce return to port and a Riser fake. |
yeknom-ecaps Member Posts: 400 From: Northville MI USA Registered: Aug 2005
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posted June 15, 2012 08:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by NAAmodel#240: I have ... a Farragut.
David - is yours addressed to the same person as Eddie's and mine? Same overcancel? |
micropooz Member Posts: 1171 From: Washington, DC, USA Registered: Apr 2003
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posted June 16, 2012 05:55 AM
Thanks David! Are your other non-Goldey Pierce's no-cachet or ship's-cachet? I'll add them to the census. |
NAAmodel#240 Member Posts: 118 From: Charleston, SC USA Registered: Jun 2005
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posted June 16, 2012 10:43 AM
Tom, the Farragut has a JAX MC dated May 31 in the HC. It is autographed by the astronaut pilot and was addressed to a M E_____ in Ridgewood, NY. A Flag stamp was placed over the address so I can't make out the rubber stamped name. The back (in pencil) says "Elkins" with an address in Monroe, Mich.Dennis, my Goldey was autographed about 5 years ago while researching my book. You can see it on pg 145 of American Astrophilately. The other two are addressed to S C Steinberg. One has a copy of the ship artwork as a glued add-on. The other is a green variant of a Swanson cachet (see Figure 477 in Cranford) that says "US in space" instead of "satellite launch". |
yeknom-ecaps Member Posts: 400 From: Northville MI USA Registered: Aug 2005
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posted June 16, 2012 08:55 PM
David - would be interested in seeing scans of the USS Farragut and Swanson variant for the USS Pierce. |