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ChrisCalle
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posted 10-04-2011 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChrisCalle   Click Here to Email ChrisCalle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I saw this listing for Velvet cacheted covers on eBay (320767877662) but did not win this lot of nice space covers. Does anyone know who the cachetmaker is for these covers?

I find them really interesting and would like to try to put together a set. I would be interested in learning more about them. Thanks.

randyc
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posted 10-04-2011 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for randyc   Click Here to Email randyc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They were made by Robert Rank, who also made the Space Voyage and Lunar Voyage covers.

micropooz
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posted 10-04-2011 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for micropooz   Click Here to Email micropooz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DOX32 (Woody Witt) is assembling a listing of all the Velvetone Cachets that he (and I) could find. Woody?

DOX32
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posted 10-04-2011 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DOX32   Click Here to Email DOX32     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes these are Robert Rank produced Velvet cacheted covers.

Actually, the are not Velvetone, a term used by A. W. Dargis for many fuzzy FDCs.

Robert Rank produced "Space Velvet" cachets and he used several names including Texture Craft, First-RANK, and Rank II for FDCs.

The space covers were called Velvet space covers and advertised in the ATA space unit Astrophile (see September 1966 issue, pages 19-20) on a subscription only basis. He only produced 35 to 60 covers for each space event because many of these covers were add-ons, and were originally serviced uncacheted by Sarzin.

They are and should be expensive! This was an excellent buy for someone.

His Velvet cacheted space event, are very clean, multi-colored and his process included finishing the covers in his oven! His process used a combination and velvet like flocking (feels fuzzy). Also, he produced covers with the same designs using silk screen, but did not put the "velvet" process on them. (see examples in Steve Durst many excellent space event publications).

We are trying to set up a meeting this fall with Mr. Rank, who still lives in New Jersey.

He, of course, produced many excellent multicolor printed space event covers as Lunar Voyage for Apollo launches and latter event cachets as Space Voyage.

If anyone has anything else to add, please comment.

By the way, I have many of these including duplicates for sale or trade.

tjaiz
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posted 05-13-2013 07:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tjaiz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was searching on info/catalogues of Robert Rank's work and this post mentioned a meeting with him in 2011. Did that ever happen, is he still alive?

I've been looking for a Lunar Voyager-Space Voyager catalog (along the lines of Chuck Vukotich's Swanson Monograph) but have never found anything. Does Robert Rank have a catalog?

If not I was contemplating starting a catalog based on my collection of Space Voyager cachets from the early 70s. I also heard of a catalog by Bill Davis that covered Rank's Space Shuttle SVCs from 1975-1993. Does that exist?

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Todd J. Anderson, PhD
Interests: Space Covers

Ross
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posted 05-13-2013 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ross   Click Here to Email Ross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Todd, I don't know if it is still available but William R. Davis produced an extensive catalog of Space Voyager covers from 25 May 1971 through 28 January 1989. I have a copy and it has 572 pages plus appendices. My copy is the First Edition 1993.

Hope that helps.

tjaiz
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posted 05-20-2013 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tjaiz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ross, excellent, I was hoping someone would have a copy so I could get some more info. Is there a publisher, mailing address, any contact info in the catalog, that I might be able to use to try and obtain a copy?

Ross
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posted 05-21-2013 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ross   Click Here to Email Ross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Todd, the catalog was edited and published by William R. Davis. It mentions that inquires should be addressed to:

William R. Davis,
6705 Galaxie Road,
Richmond, Virginia 23228-5021

I hope this helps.

micropooz
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posted 05-21-2013 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for micropooz   Click Here to Email micropooz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I tried writing Mr. Davis at that address a few years ago. Never got a response. Please let us all know if he does respond!

tjaiz
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posted 05-22-2013 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tjaiz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, there's an active phone number at that address for William R Davis, so I will drop him a line and see what happens. Ross, could you clarify the coverage of his catalog, the title on the amazon listing is as follows:

United States Space Shuttle cover catalog : a chronologically compiled record of shuttle events, testings, and launches depicted by Space Voyage cachets on historical souvenir covers, May 25, 1971 through January 28, 1989, published in 1993.

If this is indeed correct, then there would be a "catalog gap" for all of Robert Rank's other space covers - Lunar Voyage and Space Voyage covers? Unless someone knows of such a list/catalog, I could be motivated to start one since most of my Rank covers do not pertain to the shuttle, except the early test spaceplanes and stops around 1975, although it's my understanding that RR produced covers well into the 90s. Comments, thoughts anyone?

Ross
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posted 05-23-2013 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ross   Click Here to Email Ross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Todd, the Amazon listing is correct including the dates. The catalog does include some X-24 X-24a and b and M2F3 covers. The rest are shuttle related including early development tests, engine tests, flight tests and many other pre STS-1 flight covers plus STS-1 to STS-27 including STS-51L covers. The covers are numbered from SV001 to SV2430! A lot of covers.

It would be interesting to know if there is an update?

tjaiz
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posted 06-19-2013 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tjaiz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Due to the lack of posts, I presume nobody has an inventory of their Robert Rank covers that are not Space Shuttle related (and therefore covered in the out of print catalog discussed earlier)? Looks like I have my winter project then, to make an inventory and start collecting info for a database. I'm sure to be in the Richmond area at some point to try and meet Robert Rank (if he'll speak with me). Film at 11.

yeknom-ecaps
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posted 06-20-2013 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yeknom-ecaps   Click Here to Email yeknom-ecaps     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
William R. Davis was from Richmond (unfortunately Bill died in 2009 at age 87). Robert Rank lives in New Jersey.

Susan Rank
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posted 04-24-2014 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Susan Rank   Click Here to Email Susan Rank     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am in possession of some of Robert Rank's first day covers, I have some velvet or flocked ones that are quite old. I also have a lot of information on Mr. Rank if you all are still interested.

Susan Rank
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posted 04-24-2014 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Susan Rank   Click Here to Email Susan Rank     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tjaiz:
Due to the lack of posts, I presume nobody has an inventory of their Robert Rank covers that are not Space Shuttle related (and therefore covered in the out of print catalog discussed earlier)?
Robert did do a few covers that are not space related, I will look and see what I have.

yeknom-ecaps
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posted 04-24-2014 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yeknom-ecaps   Click Here to Email yeknom-ecaps     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tjaiz:
Looks like I have my winter project then, to make an inventory and start collecting info for a database.
Did you ever create the inventory?

DOX32
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posted 04-24-2014 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DOX32   Click Here to Email DOX32     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Both Dennis and I have put together spreadsheets of Robert Rank produced Space Velvet cached covers.

We would certainly be interested in meeting the Rank family and share any information we all have on covers in our possession. I currently live in Florida, but will be coming north for NAPEX in Tysons Corner Virginia the first week of June, 2014. We are planning an ATA Space unit meeting at the location also.

Ms. Rank, we would enjoy meeting you to discuss the Rank Velvet covers you may have. Please send me an email if you would like to discuss a future meeting site.

My travel plans include travel to Hartford CT in August 2014 for the national APS show, as well. — Woody Witt

Ken Havekotte
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posted 04-24-2014 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Was just notified that Robert Rank had passed away in Feb. 2014 after a long illness. Hopefully more can be posted here later.

LM1
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posted 04-25-2014 05:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LM1   Click Here to Email LM1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am very saddened to hear that Robert Rank recently passed away. I met Bob several times and we corresponded over the years. He was an asset to the hobby of space philately.

albatron
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posted 04-25-2014 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for albatron   Click Here to Email albatron     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Susan Rank:
I am in possession of some of Robert Rank's first day covers, I have some velvet or flocked ones that are quite old. I also have a lot of information on Mr. Rank if you all are still interested.
Very much so Susan, thanks for your efforts. And my deepest condolences.

tjaiz
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posted 06-06-2014 05:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tjaiz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My condolescences Susan, on your father's (?) passing. I wouldn't mind collecting people's spreadsheet lists of Rank space covers to merge with mine along with any info you'd care to provide with an eye to eventually creating a project similar to Chuck Vukotich's Swanson monograph. Is anyone else doing this or interested in the research? I live in Reston, VA. — Todd Anderson

DOX32
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posted 06-06-2014 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DOX32   Click Here to Email DOX32     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Todd, yes both Dennis and I have spreadsheets of Rank Velvet Cachets. Would be great if Susan Rank can find any records of numbers produced. Send me email to discuss coordination next steps.

Currently attending NAPEX at Tysons Corner Hilton this week end June 6-8, 2014. Moved to Lakewood Ranch, FL.

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