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streetsnake
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posted 02-17-2019 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for streetsnake   Click Here to Email streetsnake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a very large collection of pins, from Gemini forward. Can anyone recommend a reference or someone that could help me decipher what I have?

Go4Launch
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posted 02-17-2019 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Go4Launch   Click Here to Email Go4Launch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have never seen one. I have a large pin collection too, and I'd certainly be willing to help where I could, as I'm sure other cSers would, if you post photos (groups should be fine if high-rez).

The most difficult to me are the "3D" versions of obscure satellites.

streetsnake
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posted 02-18-2019 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for streetsnake   Click Here to Email streetsnake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Below are the pins that I have loose. Let me know what you think.

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posted 02-19-2019 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rambler Typhoon   Click Here to Email Rambler Typhoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a topic of high interest to me. There are so many great resources related to patches, but the pins have been a stronger interest to me.

I've been working on images a bit, but I feel like this is really something with enough content to cover that it really requires a solid database format. For myself, I want something that not only categorizes by mission, but helps differentiate manufacturers, era produced, and how they were distributed. Internal versus commercial (or mixed), etc.

We've been in the process of moving over the past year, living in temporary housing now and hoping to buy something soon, but once we finally get into permanent housing this is one of the projects I'd really like to dig into.

I've been looking into a couple different database platforms that could support this and several other documentation projects I'd like to work on for other hobbies. There are areas I think I could cover pretty well on my own, but I would definitely be looking for other people to collaborate with since there's just way too much for any one person to cover. — Todd

streetsnake
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posted 02-19-2019 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for streetsnake   Click Here to Email streetsnake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I’ve thought the same thing as well but with three young boys and the lack of IT expertise (LOL) it would be difficult for me. I know that I do not have a huge collection but maybe they're are a couple rare ones in mine to help. I'll hopefully post my "contained" pins soon. If I can be of any help, please let me know. — Ben

streetsnake
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posted 02-20-2019 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for streetsnake   Click Here to Email streetsnake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Attached below is a picture of the sealed pins that I have. My current interest is gaining knowledge around all the pins that pertain to Apollo and earlier missions. I would like to create displays for the various missions. Any help that can be given to identify various pins, outside of the obvious, would be helpful.

garyd2831
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posted 02-20-2019 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for garyd2831   Click Here to Email garyd2831     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a acquired a large number of these and love them. I actually wear them on special occasions.

Go4Launch
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posted 02-20-2019 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Go4Launch   Click Here to Email Go4Launch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A few comments on the pins posted by streetsnake:

I have never seen your LRL pin before! A very nice item and your best pin in my opinion.

The gold "cut out" Gemini program logo pin and matching broach are fairly rare. There are also cuff-links in this set. These may have come from McDonnell but I'm not sure.

Your Mercury pin (upside down) is from General Dynamics. Also a really nice early pin and uncommon. Originally came with a small presentation card. The silver Apollo 10 insignia is also uncommon.

The Mercury and Gemini spacecraft are typically from McDonnell but not all that rare.

Not sure I have seen the Saturn V cuff-links before. Don't know about the p02 or SME pins.

Almost all of the rest of these pins were or are commercially-available. The Apollo launch team pins, which show up pretty regularly, were available in Space Coast gift shops at the time.

Be glad to try to help if I can with any you don't recognize or want more information about.

to-the-stars
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posted 02-28-2019 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for to-the-stars   Click Here to Email to-the-stars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Glad we have serious discussion regarding good pins on the collectSPACE! Unfortunately it happens rarely.
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Originally posted by streetsnake:
Can anyone recommend a reference or someone that could help me decipher what I have?
You won't find any reference or catalog about Western space pins. The are several good catalogs and other publications regarding Russian space pins (all of them are in Russian), but American pins are forgotten. The closest to catalog book is the "Collecting the Space Race" by Stuart Schneider. It describes around tree dozens of buttons related to Mercury, Gemini, Apollo and Space Shuttle programs. That's it. I do believe there is a lot of knowledge regarding the space pins accumulated in the minds of serious space pin collectors and auction appraisers. But none of it known to me in the printed form.

A few comments regarding the first picture.

I completely agree with Go4Launch regarding the LRL pin. By the way, it also exists in the form of the tie clip.

General Dynamics Mercury logo pin (attached up side down) exists in two version, both originally coming on the cards with explanations. The one you don't have is smaller.

Never saw Saturn V cufflinks and Saturn IB brooch (on the grey stripe).

First row, second from the right there is rare Space Shuttle pin from the first half of 1980s.

Second row, right in the middle rare Atlas-Mercury sterling pin. Rocket shown with the escape tower.

Second row, rightmost pin is from Grumman, made from sterling. Also exists as 10K gold plated though it is very rare.

Third row, around its middle – Saturn V pin with the blue rim; it was awarded to the people engaged in Apollo program. It is pretty common.

I believe that enameled Apollo mission pins/emblems are from the 1970s or may be even from Apollo times. I also think those are souvenir pins.

Rocketdyne pin with the mathematical formula isn't easy to find with the original card. You may be proud.

Round black/blue Apollo-Soyuz button is American despite the inscription in Russian. It was issued before the flight specifically for Russian counterparts and brought to Russia during the visits of NASA officials. The inscription on the bottom of the button is complete crap a literate translation of other inscription "Right and Ready" taken from the earlier Skylab button.

At last, two Skylab pins in the third row are attached up side down. Though there is no "up" and "down" in space, Skylab usually depicted with cross-like solar panels of the Solar Observatory on the top.

Hope this will help.

to-the-stars
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posted 02-28-2019 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for to-the-stars   Click Here to Email to-the-stars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Comments for the second picture:

I'm puzzled by pO2 and SME pins. Are you sure they relate to space theme?

Second row, second on the left grey, round pin on the card. As far as I can understand from the image, it is very similar to the Balfour Apollo-Soyuz medallion. Is it possible to picture this pin separately, both front and back sides?

Apollo Command Module pins in the third row were issued by North American Rockwell, the company that built Command-Service Module. Originally, they were in the box like yours but with company’s logo. Pretty common pins.

Fourth row, third pin from the left (Apollo) is rare.

streetsnake
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posted 03-06-2019 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for streetsnake   Click Here to Email streetsnake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I apologize for the delay in responding, as I have been traveling. Thank you everyone for the input. Also below are the close-ups requested. Let me know what you think.

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posted 03-08-2019 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cozmosis22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by to-the-stars:
...regarding Russian space pins
Also please note that for every American pin made there were probably 100 produced in the old Soviet Union (that may be a slight exaggeration). But pin collecting was huge in the Eastern Bloc back in the day.

Moscow was happy to promote their prowess in space achievements by sanctioning the release of 1000s of small pins. Especially during the period between about 1959 and 1971 you will find many fine examples of tiny artwork with great detail.

streetsnake
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posted 03-08-2019 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for streetsnake   Click Here to Email streetsnake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also wanted to share this. Please let me know your thoughts.

to-the-stars
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posted 03-14-2019 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for to-the-stars   Click Here to Email to-the-stars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks to streetsnake for showing in detail interesting and rare Apollo-Soyuz pin. It looks exactly as one side of well-known Balfour medallion (the second side of the medallion is the same beside the inscription in English). may I ask you what is the size of this pin? Balfour medallion is 1.25" in diameter.

Can't say anything specific regarding the Aerospace Medical Association badge. I'm seeing it first time. I even haven't heard about this organization before. But now I found it on Wikipedia.

streetsnake
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posted 03-24-2019 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for streetsnake   Click Here to Email streetsnake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wanted to share another pin that I found and get your thoughts on it.

Also, I don't know how you display/store your pins put I found the below that worked out very nicely.

to-the-stars
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posted 03-27-2019 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for to-the-stars   Click Here to Email to-the-stars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your Friendship-7 pin is a jewel among American space pins. It is pretty rare; it pops up once every several years. The two pins I’ve monitored during last 7-8 years were sold for around $300 each one.

The pin has three hallmarks on the back. One is of manufacture that I can not identify. Second one –“10K” means that the pin is 10 karat gold plated. And the third one – “GF”, more common for the jewelry than for pins. It stands for “Gold Filled” and means that gold is part of the alloy the pin is made from.

I once took my own similar pin to the jewelry store for expertise and they told me the ruby stone seems to be real.

I heard an opinion that the capsule of Friendship-7 is made of silver but I can’t neither confirm nor disprove this statement.

Your way of organizing and displaying your collection is nice. The only problem with it is that display boxes consume a lot of room. That starts to be a problem once you have really a lot of pins.

May I ask you to share the dimensions of Apollo-Soyuz pin you presented in the earlier post?

streetsnake
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posted 03-27-2019 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for streetsnake   Click Here to Email streetsnake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My apologies for not getting you the measurements. Totally forgot. It is 15/16" wide by 1/8" deep.

So how do you decide which pins to get vs. let go? It's seems difficult to determine the age of some pins.

Below are two additional I came across. I'm guessing the Presidential Seal pin is from when Rita Rapp received the Federal Woman of the Year award. I doubt the WACO is anything special.

Tallpaul
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posted 03-28-2019 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tallpaul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In reference to the hallmarks noted on the pin. 10 KT means the piece is solid 10 KT gold (approx 40% gold content). If it were plated it would have been marked as gold plated (GP), Gold Electro Plate (GEP), or Heavy Gold Electroplate (HGE). Gold filled does not mean gold plated. When an item is gold filled there is thin layer of gold that is mechanically applied to a base metal, usually brass. In this case 10 KT GF means that there is thin layer of 10kt gold on a base metal substrate.

to-the-stars
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posted 03-28-2019 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for to-the-stars   Click Here to Email to-the-stars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks a lot TallPaul for the very useful information.
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Originally posted by streetsnake:
So how do you decide which pins to get vs. let go? It's seems difficult to determine the age of some pins.
While determining the age of the pin and deciding regarding its rarity I'm involving my own experience, knowledge of the market, analyzing subject description and reputation of the seller (if available), Internet resources, advises from other knowledgeable collectors and of course common sense. Sometimes to make a right decision you must ask for additional images, especially for the images of the back side of the pin.

Regarding two pins in your last post, I can't say anything specific. They are not space pins and this is not the area of my expertise.

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