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Moonbase Alphan
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posted 01-16-2019 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonbase Alphan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Soyuz MS-12 patch spotted today. Very nice, mostly mirrored, image of the Soyuz MS-10 patch.

PowerCat
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posted 01-17-2019 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PowerCat   Click Here to Email PowerCat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's neat and the way they kept the original design concept with a slight change in orientation.

Reminds me of the STS-83 and STS-94 patches where they reflew the same crew for 94 and just changed the outer ring color from red to blue.

Astro Rich
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posted 01-18-2019 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro Rich   Click Here to Email Astro Rich     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice!!!

Russian
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posted 01-21-2019 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Russian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The double border is symbolising their second attempt?

Russian
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posted 02-07-2019 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Russian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I took this photo in Roscosmos on their banner in January.

lucspace
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posted 02-08-2019 04:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lucspace   Click Here to Email lucspace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is the official description:
The patch is based on the graphic design for the Soyuz MS-10 crew, composed of Alexei Ovchinin and Nicholas Hague. The composition of the new emblem is mirrored relative to the original one, with the name of Christina Cook added to the design. A double border indicates the second attempt of Ovchinin and Hague to achieve orbit.

The triangular shape of the emblem personifies the unity of the three members of the spaceship crew which is shown flying above the Earth. The top corner of the emblem indicates the direction upwards, recalling that the crew is flying from Earth to the International Space Station. Behind our blue planet, Russian and American flags are flying, indicating the international character of the flight. The number of stars in the flag of the United States symbolize the number of crew members.

A silhouetted owl in flight, symbol of wisdom, spreading its wings against the blackness of space, symbolizes the contribution to science, the achievements of which are multiplied by research on the ISS. The bright golden silhouette of the space station is visible on the right side of the design - the main objective of the crew’s flight.

To the left is the Moon - a daunting task and the goal of future research. The Roscosmos logo is at the top of the emblem, above the astronauts' names. The name of the spacecraft is located in the centre of the design.

mode1charlie
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posted 02-17-2019 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mode1charlie   Click Here to Email mode1charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are there commercial versions of this patch available (or for that matter for other Soyuz flights)?

Jacques van Oene
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posted 02-19-2019 07:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jacques van Oene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not sure what you mean precise, but yes the original Soyuz patches are available to collectors.

Russian
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posted 03-18-2019 06:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Russian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congrats,Flying Dutchmen, for your 41st patch on the Soyuz crew space suits. All were into the Soyuz capsule after liftoff. Only one landed from the 44 km altitude after ejection.

But according to my information Alexei Ovchinin got back from the capsule the MS-10 panels with the logo and took some with him this time together with the MS-12 panels! Let's wait and see photos.

rasorenson
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posted 03-18-2019 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rasorenson   Click Here to Email rasorenson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've not kept track of all the Soyuz/ISS designations. How is the number sequence ordered? Obviously there have been more than 10 or 12 Soyuz flights to ISS. So why is this one designated 12? Thank you.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 03-18-2019 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There have been several different models (versions) of the Soyuz to fly crews to the International Space Station since missions began in 2000. The numbering is based on model and order.

The ISS program started with Soyuz TM (31-34), then Soyuz TMA (1-22), Soyuz TMA-M (1M-20M) and now Soyuz MS (01-12, at present).

MS-12 is the 57th Soyuz spacecraft to dock to the International Space Station (the 58th to launch on a mission aimed there).

sfurtaw
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posted 03-20-2019 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sfurtaw   Click Here to Email sfurtaw     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where can one (in the U.S.) purchase a Soyuz MS-12 patch?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 03-20-2019 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only retail source for Soyuz flight patches is spacepatches.nl. Contact Jacques for details.

mode1charlie
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posted 03-23-2019 11:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mode1charlie   Click Here to Email mode1charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Robert. I just sent a message to Jacques.

Russian
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posted 05-15-2019 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Russian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As far as I understand Koch will not land with Ovchinin and Hague. Would the logo for the landing be modified with a different name instead of Koch?

Tom
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posted 05-16-2019 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom   Click Here to Email Tom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm sure it will... similar to Whitson being added to the MS-04 patch for the landing.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 10-03-2019 05:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not the clearest view, but it appears the emblem was updated to replace Koch's name with AlMansoori's on the display at the front of mission control in Moscow (via NASA TV):

lucspace
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posted 10-03-2019 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lucspace   Click Here to Email lucspace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Which is curious as a special landing version of the Soyuz MS-12 art and patch were prepared, replacing Koch's name with Almansoori's and the ISS silhouette with a Soyuz DM under parachute.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 10-03-2019 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It also appears that Ovchinin and Hague wore the original (launch version with Koch) Soyuz MS-12 patch for landing. AlMansoori wore the Soyuz MS-15 patch.

MSS
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posted 10-03-2019 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MSS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is the patch from MCC-M.

Tom
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posted 10-03-2019 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom   Click Here to Email Tom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The one shown on MCC-M screen looks like a combination of the two.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 10-03-2019 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the one in mission control is just the launch patch with the name change.

Otherwise, the only differences with the landing patch are the addition of the UAE flag and the swap of the space station for the Soyuz descent capsule descending under parachute.

Russian
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posted 10-07-2019 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Russian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was in Moscow last week and spoke to Alexei Ovchinin Friday.

He told me he got the MS-12 landing patches with Soyuz capsule on parashute and AlMansoori instead of Koch with the MS-13 crew in July. They were supposed to change patches on their Sokols but had no time.

But he handed the landing patches to Hague and AlMansoori. Ovchinin came to Moscow with this patch on his shoulder. He confirmed it to me personally.

And we can see this patch on his blue suit on the Gagarin Cosmonaut Training Centre video (Ovchinin speaking in the plane on his way back to Moscow).

ddrwilli
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posted 10-08-2019 06:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ddrwilli   Click Here to Email ddrwilli     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Will the MS-12 landing patch be made available to collectors?

MSS
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posted 10-09-2019 09:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MSS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is photo from today's press conference from Star City 6 days after landing.

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 10-09-2019 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ddrwilli:
Will the MS-12 landing patch be made available to collectors?
Yes, Jacques van Oene has them available to buy from today, Wednesday 9th October. Two versions, one with the name in Latin and one with the name in Arabic, (see below). Both €10.00 each + €6.00 shipping.

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