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Robert Pearlman
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posted 06-06-2017 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Artists redesign Apollo mission patches 50 years after moon landings

Two artists who specialize in designing space mission patches have partnered with NASA's official embroidered emblem supplier to produce a reimagined set of Apollo insignias to mark the 50-year anniversaries of the moon missions.

Tim Gagnon of Florida and Jorge Cartes of Spain, who for more than a decade have collaborated on creating almost two dozen of the patches worn by NASA space shuttle and space station crews, are now working with A-B Emblem of North Carolina to offer the new set of 24 emblems.

...all 24 of the patches are trimmed in metallic gold thread, a nod to the Apollo missions' golden anniversaries, and are 5 inches (12.7 centimeters) across.

There are also two larger "jacket back" patches. A 12-inch (30 cm) emblem that symbolizes all of the Apollo missions and an 8-inch (20-cm) patch that reproduces the Apollo 17 Spirit patch art. They are $45 and $20 each, respectively.

KSCartist
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posted 06-06-2017 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is something that I've dreamed of since my Dad and I attended the launch of Apollo 17 in December, 1972.

I hope everyone likes it.

mode1charlie
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posted 06-06-2017 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mode1charlie   Click Here to Email mode1charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Amazing work, Tim and Jorge!

I look forward to adding these to my collection...

KAPTEC
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posted 06-07-2017 04:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KAPTEC   Click Here to Email KAPTEC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Robert for the article: it perfectly reflects our spirit of collaboration and our intention to honor and thank all those who made possible the feat of the Apollo Program. And thanks Tim for allowing me, once again, to work with a genius. I hope you all guys and friends will enjoy these small homage.

Panther494
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posted 06-07-2017 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Panther494   Click Here to Email Panther494     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Beautiful work. I love the subtle additions to the original designs. Can I ask why, on the Apollo 12 spirit patch, does Charles Conrad have the red command stripes on the suit? Didn't these first come into use on Apollo 13?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 06-07-2017 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A few notes from A-B Emblem:
  • All the regular patches are 5" and $10 each, except for the Apollo 14 mission emblem, Apollo 14 spirit emblem, and the Apollo 16 spirit emblem. These three are 6" diameter and $12 each.

  • The Apollo Mission Back Patch (12") is $45 and the Apollo Spirit Back Patch (8") is $20.

  • The Apollo Mission Set (12 patches and 12" Back Patch) is $100. The Apollo Spirit Set (11* patches and 8" Back Patch) is $85. Purchasing the sets versus the individual patches is about a 40% discount. (*The Apollo 7 Spirit patch is available only from Walt Cunningham's website.)

BMckay
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posted 06-07-2017 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BMckay   Click Here to Email BMckay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just bought mine.

nelyubov
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posted 06-07-2017 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nelyubov   Click Here to Email nelyubov     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why is there no "spirit" patch for Apollo 7 on the AB site for sale but one is shown in the collection photo above?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 06-07-2017 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As noted in the article and above:
The Apollo 7 Spirit patch is available only from Walt Cunningham's website.

onesmallstep
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posted 06-07-2017 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for onesmallstep   Click Here to Email onesmallstep     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As noted above, Conrad did not have red stripes on his suit; it was precisely because the photos returned from the mission could not be identified as that of either Bean or Conrad, unless the two crewmembers pointed themselves out.

Also, another nitpick, but I can understand it not being a direct quote and with little room to put it in: The phrase from one of the Apollo 13 crew after LM jettison was 'Farewell, Aquarius, and WE thank you.'

mach3valkyrie
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posted 06-08-2017 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mach3valkyrie   Click Here to Email mach3valkyrie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Didn't Capcom Joe Kerwin say that?

Great set of patches guys! I love Apollo 12 with the Corvette on the Moon!

GoesTo11
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posted 06-08-2017 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Regarding the Apollo 12 "spirit" patch: I may well be mis-remembering (can't find a thread reference), but I seem to recall that when Tim and Jorge did this patch the first time around, they had a specific rationale for putting commander's stripes on Conrad... even though it wasn't historically accurate.

I believe they collaborated with Ed Hengeveld as well. Perhaps the artist(s) could weigh in on this?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 06-08-2017 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Per the notes Tim shared with me:
The Apollo 12 Spirit patch is inspired by Ed Hengeveld's and Alan Bean's paintings (with permission).

Dick Gordon is shown in the A7L suit he would have worn on Apollo 18 (and did wear as backup CDR for Apollo 15).

GoesTo11
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posted 06-08-2017 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah, so that's meant to represent Gordon, not Conrad. Thanks Robert

Panther494
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posted 06-08-2017 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Panther494   Click Here to Email Panther494     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Robert for clearing that up. Makes that patch even better now.

Gonzo
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posted 06-08-2017 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gonzo   Click Here to Email Gonzo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ordered my set of mission patches today. Obviously because of the great work Tim and Jorge have done and my interest in Apollo.

However, of note: While the article says "all" patches have the gold metallic thread border, Walt Cunningham's Spirit 7 patch does not. It is his patch and represents Apollo rising like a Phoenix, in memorium to Apollo 1. NASA did not approve this idea when proposed and we have the Apollo 7 patch we know today. Walt recently (a couple of years ago) wanted to create the patch initially proposed and did a wonderful job doing it. I have #120 in my collection and it does not have a gold border.

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 06-09-2017 07:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All these patches have no white square embedded labels with the patch design numbers or date codes on them, but they do have the gold on black diamond shaped 'A-B Emblem Licensee Division 866-403-3788 abemblem.com' "Crown emblem" stickers on them. (Except the Apollo 7 Spirit patch).

All these patches were manufactured outside of the USA in China. That has now been confirmed by Ashley.

KSCartist
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posted 06-10-2017 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks everyone for the comments.

On the Apollo 12 spirit patch, that is indeed Dick Gordon in the suit he would have worn on Apollo 18.

Walt Cunnigham's Phoenix patch doesn't have the metallic gold border because he still has about half the batch he ordered in 2013. I told A-B that we wouldn't produce any until Walt sells his inventory. He believed in me and loved the design so he'll be the only source.

I'll let Ashley confirm where they're made.

I had the chance to show them to Walt Cunningham, Jim McDivitt, Dick Gordon, Fred Haise, Al Worden and Charlie Duke today at Space Fest and they all universally praised the set. They genuinely appreciate people remembering what they did all those years ago.

waa49
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posted 08-19-2017 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waa49   Click Here to Email waa49     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just bought the Apollo 11 and Apollo 13 commemorative spirit patches. Very nice.

Thank you "TANG" and "JCR".

KAPTEC
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posted 08-22-2017 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KAPTEC   Click Here to Email KAPTEC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you!

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