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Liembo
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posted 12-05-2015 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liembo   Click Here to Email Liembo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ISS Expedition 51 mission patch

The International Space Station's (ISS) Expedition 51 begins with the undocking of Soyuz MS-02 in February 2017. New crew members will arrive shortly thereafter on Soyuz MS-04.

Expedition 51 will be commanded by astronaut Peggy Whitson of NASA. Her crewmates include cosmonauts Oleg Novitskiy, Alexander Misurkin and Nikolai Tikhonov, astronaut Mark Vande Hei of NASA, and Thomas Pesquet of the European Space Agency.

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posted 12-05-2015 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liembo   Click Here to Email Liembo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thomas Pesquet gave a look at the Expedition 51 insignia in pin format on Twitter:
Le magnifique pin's de l'expédition 51 / The stunning expedition 51 pin! Designed with @AstroPeggy

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posted 12-06-2015 06:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hoorenz   Click Here to Email hoorenz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice, but I am a little bit puzzled by how they run the names around the patch in relation to the orientation of the flags. Some names and the Russian and French flags are upside down, while the American flag is rotated 180 degrees to keep it upright.

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posted 12-07-2015 03:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Russian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We know already what is the official design for the ISS Expedition 51 logo?

If Russian flag is upside down on it NASA will have to modify the logo.

Philip
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posted 12-07-2015 07:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It all depends how you look at it... any Heraldry protocol doesn't apply to space patches I presume?

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posted 12-07-2015 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dcfowler1   Click Here to Email dcfowler1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since The Institute of Heraldry doesn't design them, I would say no.

Liembo
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posted 01-07-2016 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liembo   Click Here to Email Liembo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
High res artwork via Pesquet:

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Very nice design. Very nice indeed.

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A very stylish design, great use of colour. However, the names look quite messed up. I do not understand the choice of putting in names upside down, which I believe to be a first in a manned space patch. I also do not like the irregular kerning (spacing between characters) in order to fill the available space.

But quite unforgivable is the really messy positioning of some letters: both the 'W' in Whitson and 'H' in Misurkin's name are sitting too high. This is reproduced in the pin and I am afraid we will see it again in the embroidered patch. A shame, for this makes the difference between a good design and a perfect one, which was within reach, I feel.

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posted 01-08-2016 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hoorenz   Click Here to Email hoorenz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lucspace:
A very stylish design, great use of colour. However, the names look quite messed up.
Expedition 50 and 52 also suffer from some remarkable font problems. We used to have these problems a lot some 25 or so flights back, but gradually, things started to improve. Whatever progress was made with the fonts over the past few years, has somehow been lost with these latest designs...

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posted 01-17-2016 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KAPTEC   Click Here to Email KAPTEC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Beautiful. Very beautiful but... I'm absolutely agree with Luc and Erik. It's a pity.

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posted 07-13-2016 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MSS   Click Here to Email MSS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From @LiNa8294 on Twitter:
Get a first look at the mission patch for Exp.50/51 crew

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I missed this back in April, but Expedition 51 commander Peggy Whitson wrote about the patch and its designer, Sean Collins, as part of her "The NASA Village" website.
Recently I stopped by to drop off an Expedition 51 koozie and hat to Sean Collins. He was the principal artist for the design of our Expedition 51 patch/logo which are on both.
Whitson also shared the official description for the Expedition 51 insignia:
From as early as the 11th century, coats of arms have been used as emblems representing groups as small as families to as large as countries. The Expedition 51 patch is designed as a modernized international coat of arms, blending the traditional shield shape with our modernized symbol of achievement, the International Space Station (ISS).

The background represents our home world and its inhabitants, and on the right, outer space. The bi-color ISS is the bridge between the two, symbolizing the benefits on Earth of space research, and at the same time our mission to explore deeper into space, on a path to further discovery and knowledge.

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 08-26-2016 07:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This ISS-51 patch has product design number 254901 Made In USA 07/1655 date code. They were manufactured on the same small sample machine again, like the ISS-52 patches were with the same date code 07/1655.

Update: The original crew ISS-51 patch has also been found with date codes 12/2015 and 9/16/20.

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posted 10-26-2016 07:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Russian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With the MS-03 launch now Nov. 18 (Baikonur time), will the crew have corrected ISS 51 patches on their training suits? We haven't seen yet the ISS 51 logo with Fischer and Yurchikhin instead of Misurkin's crew.

Will AB Emblem be able to deliver to NASA these patches before the launch early enough to send them to the crew at least to Baikonur? Many people have doubts...

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 10-26-2016 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It will depend on if the revised design/crew change patches have been manufactured yet?

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posted 10-26-2016 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Russian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As far as I understand it is Erik who sends ISS patches to Russia but for on board suits by Kentavr. My point is for training suits the crew put on for TsPK and Baikonur trainings before their launch. And for these suits the ISS patches come from NASA.

In any case I wrote already before with Russian flag upside down NASA would have redo the logo. It is the case...

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posted 10-26-2016 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AshleyBoykin   Click Here to Email AshleyBoykin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rest at ease. We are working with the astronaut office very closely to hammer out the final details of this patch. We can only produce the emblems for the training suits, astronauts flight allotments etc., after we receive final approval from the astronauts and NASA officials.

We are very close to having the final product completed. I think that it is very likely that we will be able to produce these in enough time for the astronauts to have them during training.

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posted 10-26-2016 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hoorenz   Click Here to Email hoorenz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Russian:
In any case I wrote already before with Russian flag upside down NASA would have redo the logo.
From what I have heard, the flags are no longer upside down and they also got rid of the 'kerning' problem.

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posted 10-27-2016 06:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AshleyBoykin   Click Here to Email AshleyBoykin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is correct. All flags are now the correct orientation And I believe we have corrected all spacing between the text. It is going to be a beautiful patch! Hoping to have approval for it shortly!

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posted 10-29-2016 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waa49   Click Here to Email waa49     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How about patch/pin change of ISS Expedition 51? There is also a crew change. Any information available?

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 10-29-2016 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, if the original ISS-52 crew become the ISS-54 crew, ISS-53 become the ISS-52 crew, ISS-54 become the ISS-55 crew and ISS-55 become the ISS-53 crew. So where does the crew change effecting ISS-51 fit in to this exchange? Is it ISS-56? Or is one of the above wrong?

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posted 10-29-2016 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hoorenz   Click Here to Email hoorenz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Half of 52 (Yurchikhin/Fischer) is simply also half of the 51 crew, that is why 51 is affected. And yes, new patch and pin for Expedition 51 - same design, but with only five names on it and some redistribution of flags and stars.

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posted 10-30-2016 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom   Click Here to Email Tom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has the revised Expedition 51 patch been released yet?

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posted 11-16-2016 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MSS   Click Here to Email MSS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is a first look at the new patch during today's press conference at Baikonur.

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Good to see the names are no longer upside down either, which seems to be a last minute redesign of the original redesign. Of course there is no up or down in space, and it might have worked with a circular patch, but it looked weird on a shield shaped logo, which has a very distinct orientation.

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posted 11-18-2016 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The revised Expedition 51 artwork:

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The new version of the ISS 51 patch was also taken by the MS-03 crew to the ISS to replace the previous version Kentavr put on their on board suits. With velcro backside I think.

I got this information from a friend who was with MS-03 crew in Baikonur. Let's find photos from the ISS now...

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posted 11-26-2016 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hart Sastrowardoyo   Click Here to Email Hart Sastrowardoyo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So we'll have a flown patch for a crew that doesn't exist? Has this happened before - aside from flying Lance Bass' nametag which was already on the spacesuit?

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There may be (and probably are) other examples, but for one, STS-133 patches with Tim Kopra's name flew aboard Discovery.

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The correct last version of the ISS-51 patch will be on spacesuits of MS-04 crew.

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posted 12-20-2016 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hoorenz   Click Here to Email hoorenz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First, an image of Thomas Pesquet's onboard Kentavr suit with the old patch. These were the suits and patches the crew were wearing when they entered ISS. The photo was taken last August at the Kentavr factory; the Soyuz MS-03 patch still had to be applied.

And next, an image of the new patch. As you can see, the border is a little wider than the first version - resulting in the patch being a little larger than the first one. (For Kevin: 269637 MADE IN USA 11/1620. But I do not know if the crew took up patches from the same production run, it might have been from a smaller "55" batch.)

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Originally posted by Hart Sastrowardoyo:
So we'll have a flown patch for a crew that doesn't exist? Has this happened before?
Soyuz TMA-7/Expedition 12 crew had a Panchenko Expedition 12 patch on their Sokol suits with the name of Reiter (who, because of delays in the shuttle program, would be on Expedition 13). Also, the oval Planeta Zemlja produced Mir-24 patch with unflown crewmembers (Eyharts, Lawrence) was seen floating aboard that station.

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JSC Gift Shop (shopnasa.com) still has the original, official (Space Flight Awareness) Expedition 51 decals in stock.

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Does anyone have any idea when AB Emblem will have Expedition 51 patches available to the public?

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posted 02-10-2017 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Expedition 51 (revised five crew name) patches are due to be released Monday next week. P/D No. 269637 Made in USA 11/1655, 11/1620 and 2/17/20 date codes.
Updates;
3/17/20
8/17/20 [JSC]
Update on 04-11-18;
A-B EMBLEM 01/1840 (China)

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Expedition 51 is now available from A-B Emblem (Item #269637).

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quote:
Originally posted by hoorenz:
...resulting in the patch being a little larger than the first one.
Just to illustrate this:

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A very crude Russian made version of the Expedition 51 (Revised Crew Names) patch has come to light. It is not a TsENKI patch. It has a larger text for the names in a mid blue instead of navy blue, (as seen above). That mid blue is also used for the left side of the ISS and the space on the right.

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From Thomas Pesquet:
Sewing our Expedition patch onto our Sokol suits on Sunday [April 30]. Not our specialty, but Oleg and I got the job done!

We are getting the Sokol suits ready for our return to Earth soon, and having the right patches is very important.

The suits keep us safe if there is ever a sudden loss of pressure or fire inside our Soyuz capsule. We don't really sew the patches into our suits, that would make holes and sharp needles are to be avoided on the Space Station. Instead the patch and the suit have loops that we thread through with string and a blunt needle, tying a knot at the end.


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