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spaceman
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posted 07-20-2014 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaceman   Click Here to Email spaceman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looking through some new stock from AB Emblem, I came across this on the reverse of the Apollo program patches.

Will they now appear on all new stock? Are others already out there? Will this create a new collecting area for patch collectors?

hoorenz
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posted 07-21-2014 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hoorenz   Click Here to Email hoorenz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I noticed that two recent ISS Expedition patches that were produced by AB at the end of June of this year, no longer had the 'Made in USA' label with product code on the back - instead, the label was now on the cellophane packaging holding 10 patches each (the coating on the back of the patches was clear though).

No idea if this is a trend, with production dates and codes no longer required for individual patches, or just something unique to these particular batches (which were not meant for commercial use).

Skyforce1
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posted 07-23-2014 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Skyforce1   Click Here to Email Skyforce1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I checked with my representative at AB Emblem and the patches will now have the backing that is pictured on this thread.

hoorenz
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posted 09-05-2014 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hoorenz   Click Here to Email hoorenz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can someone tell me what the backs of the ISS expedition (41 through 46 and the 1-Year) patches now available look like? Any with the new 'Made in USA' pattern? Or just clear with production code/date sticker?

mama04
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posted 09-05-2014 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mama04   Click Here to Email mama04     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Received all of them yesterday and all backsides are clear with a few having the 'made in USA' stickers. None of them have the new backside coatings.

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 09-11-2014 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of the 7 ISS patches I received at the U.S. address I use, only the ISS-43 patch has the new 'Made In U.S.A.' backing.

hoorenz
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posted 09-11-2014 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hoorenz   Click Here to Email hoorenz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Exp. 43 patches that will be used on the Kentavr 'ceremonial' suits aboard the ISS (although it will of course not be visible to anyone) will have clear backings with embedded 'made in U.S.A.'/217945/111320 labels. I do not know what will be on the three Sokol suits.

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 09-11-2014 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Three of the ISS Expedition patches I've bought have no embedded white labels on the backs. ISS-41, ISS-42 and ISS-44.

ISS-45, ISS-46, plus the one year patches do.

hoorenz
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posted 09-11-2014 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hoorenz   Click Here to Email hoorenz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Expedition 41, 42 and 46 patches flown aboard ISS on the Kentavr suits have embedded labels. Kentavr flown Expedition 44 and 45 have no labels. I do not know if anyone is interested in details like these, but I could make a full list of labels on the Expedition patches used in space.

Ronpur
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posted 09-11-2014 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ronpur   Click Here to Email Ronpur     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, only my 42 patch has a label. None of the others do.

hoorenz
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posted 09-13-2014 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hoorenz   Click Here to Email hoorenz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here are the AB Emblem batches that were/are to be used used on the Russian Kentavr ISS on board suits. Of each Expedition patch, some 30 are ordered, of which the 12 best ones are selected for flight.

In most cases, these are from the very first batch that was produced, so it gives you an indication how the patch in your collection relates to the original patches that were manufactured for use aboard the ISS.

The information on the AB Emblem labels consists of the product number, usually folowed by production month, year and country of origin. I believe 20 = USA, 10 is China or Taiwan.

Unfortunately, with one or two exceptions, I do not have these data for the Sokol suits, because Zvezda is using a different supply route.

  • Expedition 26
    163963 B 06/10 10
    Note: This was the uncorrected version (small 'e' in Kondratyev). Corrected version with 'E', probably 163963 08/10/20, was used on the Sokol suits.

  • Expedition 27
    169174 B 09/10/20

  • Expedition 28
    171113 U 11/10/20

  • Expedition 29
    171517 11/10/20

  • Expedition 30
    174586 5/11/20

  • Expedition 31
    Not AB Emblem, but Spacepatches.nl version
    Note: The first AB Emblem batch that would have been on the Kentavr suits if the crew had not requested an alternate version, was 180631U MADE IN USA 8/11/20

  • Expedition 32
    180683 MADE IN USA 7/11/20

  • Expedition 33
    187592U 01/18/20
    Note: this is a typo, it should have read 01/12/20

  • Expedition 34
    188641U 01/18/20
    Note: this is a typo, it should have read 01/12/20

  • Expedition 35
    178084 MADE IN USA 8/11/20

  • Expedition 36
    201910 MADE IN USA 10/12/20
    Note: Patches from this batch (with corrected name of Misurkin) were also on the Sokol suits during launch, but without any backing material and thus without a label; AB Emblem patches with the wrong spelling of Misurkin were never prepared for flight; The first version without names had already been prepared for the Kentavr suits when it was decided to change the artwork, this was batch 182346U MADE IN USA 8/11/20

  • Expedition 37
    Not AB Emblem, but Spacepatches.nl version.
    Note: First AB Emblem batch that would have been on the Kentavr suits if the crew had not requested an alternate version, was 200033 MADE IN USA 02/1320; Rejected AB Emblem patch first batch (shield shape) was 192166 MADE IN USA 06/12/20 but was never prepared for flight.

  • Expedition 38
    204271 MADE IN USA 2/1320

  • Expedition 39
    198703 MADE IN USA 5/13/20

  • Expedition 40
    212904 MADE IN USA 4 13 20

  • Expedition 41
    211609 MADE IN USA 5/ 13/20

  • Expedition 42
    212626 MADE IN USA 4 13 20
    Note: this is a typo, it should have read 7 13 20

  • Expedition 43
    217945 MADE IN USA 111320
    Note: Version that would have been on the Kentavr suits if Lonchakov had not been replaced, was 213238 MADE IN USA 4 13 20. As with Expedition 42, this is a typo: it should have read 7 13 20

  • Expedition 44
    No label, but from batch 233019 MADE IN USA 6/14 20 (label was on outside of celophane packaging holding 10 patches each)

  • Expedition 45
    No label, but from batch 233137 MADE IN USA 6/14 20
    (label was on outside of celophane packaging holding 10 patches each)

  • Expedition 46
    A mix of three versions was delivered to the Kentavr factory and prepared for flight in mid-October 2014:
    235638 MADE IN USA 0814 20,
    235638 MADE IN USA 08/14 20 and without label. Less than two weeks later, AB Emblem was ordered by the Astronaut Office to cease production of the patch.

  • Year in space
    235564 MADE IN USA 0814 20

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 09-13-2014 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A very interesting list Erik, many thanks for that.

I have some AB Emblem patches with a 40 after the date (I've not seen a 30 though).

The 1 year ISS patch is 235564 08 14 20.

hoorenz
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posted 09-13-2014 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hoorenz   Click Here to Email hoorenz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
40 might be Mexico?

hoorenz
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posted 09-24-2014 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hoorenz   Click Here to Email hoorenz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kevin T. Randall:
The 1 year ISS patch is 235564 0814 20.
That is also the one that will fly on the onboard Kentavr suits.

Harald Kraenzel
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posted 09-26-2014 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harald Kraenzel   Click Here to Email Harald Kraenzel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kevin T. Randall:
I have some AB Emblem patches with a 40 after the date (I've not seen a 30 though).
Some days ago I received some Expedition patches from AB and I noticed that one Expedition 46 has a label 235638 6/30.

One Expedition 43 has the backing as shown on top in the first post.

And some other Expedition patches (39, 41, second 43, 44 and 45) do have no label at all.

All times are CT (US)

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