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Ken Havekotte
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posted 09-12-2013 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Been going over some older patches and came across some unusual ones that I haven't seen before;
  1. A circular vintage-looking "Saturn S-II Test Team, Launch Operation," 4+ inches in diameter with the NAR Apollo program design in center. Of course, NAR was the prime Apollo contractor for the Saturn V second rocket stage. Must be a NAR-produced or related cloth patch for the company's S-II test team (probably at Kennedy Space Center)?

  2. Unusual 3" diameter circular patch, 100% embroider, with "NASA" at top and "APOLLO P.1. TEAM" at bottom in gold metallic thread. In the center of the vintage-era patch is an Apollo CSM in an upright flight position heading for a gold crescent moon with a portion of the earth below. Also in the center of the design are six silver stars with a thick blue arrow pointing from the earth to the moon.
If it would help, perhaps I can get Robert or someone else to scan the patch images for cS readers. Does anyone know anything further about these patches? Thanks!

spaced out
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posted 09-12-2013 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If only we could persuade you to buy a scanner Ken! You do know they're only about $50 to $80 and can be used without any special knowledge?

Anyway, I don't think I've seen the first of those patches but the North American teams seem to have been pretty keen on producing patches.

Examples of the second patch - the Apollo P.I. Team - appeared from a single seller on eBay some time last year. It was the fist time I'd seen them but the guy seemed to have quite a large stock.

I believe the patches are related to the Apollo Principal Investigator scientists who worked on different areas of experimental science during the project, but don't know anything more.

Ken Havekotte
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posted 09-12-2013 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the above posted info Chris, and — yes I know — I am still behind the times a bit in not yet having my own computer equipment and "know how" for providing scans.

But I do now have an Epson Stylus NX420 printer that I am currently using. Can this unit be used for a scanner as well? I think so, therefore, I really need to get busy and start doing scans regularly as I know — as many others have told me — "scans are a MUST for me" as they can be so useful in so many ways. I'll dig up the operating manual for it and get educated, I promise.

Meanwhile, I do appreciate the comments, especially about the second patch possibly being related to the team of all the Apollo
principal investigators of scientists and researchers.

Thanks so much!

Liembo
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posted 09-12-2013 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liembo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's the SPDb copy of the PI Team patch.

Are these similar to the Saturn-II test team patches you describe?

fredtrav
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posted 09-12-2013 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fredtrav   Click Here to Email fredtrav     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes Ken, the Epson Stylus NX420 is a scanner as well.

Ken Havekotte
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posted 09-12-2013 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the above postings, and yes, the S-II Test Team patch has the blue background as depicted on the Space Patch Database, which by the way, I've enjoyed viewing the patch website that I didn't know about beforehand. Thanks for sharing it with me.

The patch would appear to be a North American Rockwell (NAR) production of some kind, not NASA, since it was obtained from a retired NAR/Apollo-Saturn worker here at Kennedy.

Any idea, value wise, of the S-II and P.1. patches? Just curious to know.

I've got a few more unusual space patches, as time permits, I'll get them scanned for cS-postings here.

Good to know, also, that my new Epson printer is indeed a scanner as well; thanks for the affirmation.

SleeBaudrons
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posted 09-14-2013 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SleeBaudrons     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have to admit I'm not very techno-savvy either. I have a printer that scans and I often include images in e-mails, but I've no idea how to include an image in a forum post.

spaced out
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posted 09-17-2013 07:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Incidentally, I suspect that the blue and red Saturn S-II Test Team patches pictured on the database were Randy Hunt reproductions from the late 90s / early 2000s.

Ken Havekotte
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posted 09-17-2013 07:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can someone here depict (front and back) of a Randy Hunt produced S-II Test Team patch?

It would appear the S-II and Apollo P1 patches that started this thread do have a vintage production style (to my knowledge that Hunt did not have) along with an old backing-type weaving process.

Keep in mind, also, that some patches referred to like this came from ex-space workers that were not at all, as we are, space memorabilia collectors.

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posted 09-17-2013 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ken, there's every chance that your patch is a genuine vintage example. I was just pointing out that replicas exist.

Randy Hunt's patches usually had bare cloth backs, not plastic coatings, but the stitching generally looks bright and modern.

I don't have images of the backs of Randy's patches but I think the blue example on Liem's site above is a Randy Hunt replica.

To get your scanner working I believe it's as simple as this: put the patch face down on the glass and close the cover ; press the Scan button on the machine ; select "Scan to PC" using the left and right buttons ; press the Start button.

This should scan the image and create a JPG on your PC that you can then send as an attachment to a mail etc.

I'm looking forward to seeing a scan of your patch Ken!

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