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Topic: Vintage Apollo patches: S-II Test and P.I. Team
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Ken Havekotte
Member Posts: 2913
From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 09-12-2013 08:37 AM
   
Been going over some older patches and came across some unusual ones that I haven't seen before; - A circular vintage-looking "Saturn S-II Test Team, Launch Operation," 4+ inches in diameter with the NAR Apollo program design in center. Of course, NAR was the prime Apollo contractor for the Saturn V second rocket stage. Must be a NAR-produced or related cloth patch for the company's S-II test team (probably at Kennedy Space Center)?
- Unusual 3" diameter circular patch, 100% embroider, with "NASA" at top and "APOLLO P.1. TEAM" at bottom in gold metallic thread. In the center of the vintage-era patch is an Apollo CSM in an upright flight position heading for a gold crescent moon with a portion of the earth below. Also in the center of the design are six silver stars with a thick blue arrow pointing from the earth to the moon.
If it would help, perhaps I can get Robert or someone else to scan the patch images for cS readers. Does anyone know anything further about these patches? Thanks! |
spaced out
Member Posts: 3110
From: Paris, France
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 09-12-2013 08:53 AM
If only we could persuade you to buy a scanner Ken! You do know they're only about $50 to $80 and can be used without any special knowledge?  Anyway, I don't think I've seen the first of those patches but the North American teams seem to have been pretty keen on producing patches. Examples of the second patch - the Apollo P.I. Team - appeared from a single seller on eBay some time last year. It was the fist time I'd seen them but the guy seemed to have quite a large stock. I believe the patches are related to the Apollo Principal Investigator scientists who worked on different areas of experimental science during the project, but don't know anything more. |
Ken Havekotte
Member Posts: 2913
From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 09-12-2013 09:41 AM
Thanks for the above posted info Chris, and — yes I know — I am still behind the times a bit in not yet having my own computer equipment and "know how" for providing scans.But I do now have an Epson Stylus NX420 printer that I am currently using. Can this unit be used for a scanner as well? I think so, therefore, I really need to get busy and start doing scans regularly as I know — as many others have told me — "scans are a MUST for me" as they can be so useful in so many ways. I'll dig up the operating manual for it and get educated, I promise. Meanwhile, I do appreciate the comments, especially about the second patch possibly being related to the team of all the Apollo
principal investigators of scientists and researchers. Thanks so much! |
Liembo
Member Posts: 583
From: Bothell, WA
Registered: Jan 2013
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posted 09-12-2013 09:54 AM
Here's the SPDb copy of the PI Team patch.Are these similar to the Saturn-II test team patches you describe? |
fredtrav
Member Posts: 1673
From: Birmingham AL
Registered: Aug 2010
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posted 09-12-2013 10:09 AM
Yes Ken, the Epson Stylus NX420 is a scanner as well. |
Ken Havekotte
Member Posts: 2913
From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 09-12-2013 03:34 PM
Thanks for the above postings, and yes, the S-II Test Team patch has the blue background as depicted on the Space Patch Database, which by the way, I've enjoyed viewing the patch website that I didn't know about beforehand. Thanks for sharing it with me.The patch would appear to be a North American Rockwell (NAR) production of some kind, not NASA, since it was obtained from a retired NAR/Apollo-Saturn worker here at Kennedy. Any idea, value wise, of the S-II and P.1. patches? Just curious to know. I've got a few more unusual space patches, as time permits, I'll get them scanned for cS-postings here. Good to know, also, that my new Epson printer is indeed a scanner as well; thanks for the affirmation. |
SleeBaudrons
Member Posts: 16
From: Scotland
Registered: Sep 2012
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posted 09-14-2013 05:01 PM
I have to admit I'm not very techno-savvy either. I have a printer that scans and I often include images in e-mails, but I've no idea how to include an image in a forum post. |
spaced out
Member Posts: 3110
From: Paris, France
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 09-17-2013 07:22 AM
Incidentally, I suspect that the blue and red Saturn S-II Test Team patches pictured on the database were Randy Hunt reproductions from the late 90s / early 2000s. |
Ken Havekotte
Member Posts: 2913
From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 09-17-2013 07:55 AM
Can someone here depict (front and back) of a Randy Hunt produced S-II Test Team patch?It would appear the S-II and Apollo P1 patches that started this thread do have a vintage production style (to my knowledge that Hunt did not have) along with an old backing-type weaving process. Keep in mind, also, that some patches referred to like this came from ex-space workers that were not at all, as we are, space memorabilia collectors. |
spaced out
Member Posts: 3110
From: Paris, France
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 09-17-2013 09:01 AM
Ken, there's every chance that your patch is a genuine vintage example. I was just pointing out that replicas exist.Randy Hunt's patches usually had bare cloth backs, not plastic coatings, but the stitching generally looks bright and modern. I don't have images of the backs of Randy's patches but I think the blue example on Liem's site above is a Randy Hunt replica. To get your scanner working I believe it's as simple as this: put the patch face down on the glass and close the cover ; press the Scan button on the machine ; select "Scan to PC" using the left and right buttons ; press the Start button. This should scan the image and create a JPG on your PC that you can then send as an attachment to a mail etc. I'm looking forward to seeing a scan of your patch Ken! |
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