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kosmo
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posted 06-10-2007 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kosmo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone know if there is a picture showing the Apollo 11 astronauts actually wearing their Biological Isolation Garments with a Apollo 11 patch on it?

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posted 06-10-2007 11:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is the only Apollo 11 shot I have found with the crew in their BIGs and it shows them wearing only the NASA logo.

dtemple
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posted 06-10-2007 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dtemple   Click Here to Email dtemple     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In reference to the photo provided by the above link, each BIG seems to have a dark circular area on the right side (from the crewmember's perspective), but no patch is visible. In this view the crew can be seen wearing the actual BIG patch.

spaced out
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posted 06-11-2007 01:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a good question. Whilst they certainly wore the patch on their regular blue jump suits whilst in the biological isolation trailer I haven't seen a shot that shows mission patches on the coveralls they wore before reaching the trailer. I presume that the latter are actually the Biological Isolation Garments.

If this is true then maybe the whole Apollo "BIG" patch thing is a misnomer.

KSCartist
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posted 06-11-2007 07:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The way I understand it, they did have an Apollo-11 patch the BIG but in the helicopter they peeled them off (velcro) and gave them to the crew.

If I'm wrong someone here will give the correct answer, you can be sure.

kosmo
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posted 06-11-2007 07:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kosmo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is why I brought this up, there was supposedly a special Apollo 11 Biological Isolation Garments (BIGs) patch, that the astronauts wore between the CM and the quarantine trailer when they returned to earth, but Iíve only ever seen it on their jump suits in the quarantine trailer. Interesting!

kosmo
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posted 06-11-2007 07:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kosmo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe we can get one of the Apollo 11 astronauts to weigh in on this?

spaced out
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posted 06-11-2007 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do believe Tim has it right. It's really difficult to make out but you can just about see there's a patch there in one of the shots of the crew in the dinghy during the recovery.

Cut to the exit from the helicopter and all three suits just have a circle of dark velcro where the patches were.

That means the design really was used by the crew on the Biological Isolation Garments, albeit only for a few minutes.

robsouth
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posted 06-11-2007 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for robsouth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am sure that I have read somewhere that they did remove the patches on their BIG's, it may have been in Aldrin's, "Return To Earth".

robsouth
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posted 06-11-2007 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for robsouth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Return To Earth",

"Just before we left the helicopter we ripped the Apollo 11 insignias off the isolation garments and handed them to the helicopters crew. It was spontaneous and a way of saying thanks".

David Carey
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posted 06-03-2014 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for David Carey   Click Here to Email David Carey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone know the fuller story behind this BIG patch example sold recently on eBay and originally from Novaspace?

The seller's picture leaves covered some of the important language of the CoA and I don't understand if there were patches sold that had some special "worn status".

The auction's older CoA writeup differs from what came with the Collins-signed BIG patch I purchased from Novaspace (Astronaut Central) last year but the basic BIG patch story and Collins certification is common to both.

More broadly, it's puzzling that these patches still sometimes fetch far above the going price from Astronaut Central.

Are there different grades of Collins-owned BIG patches?

spaced out
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posted 06-03-2014 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's just a regular Collins signed patch as far as I know. The buyer most likely assumed the patch to have been worn by Collins.

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