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posted 06-07-2007 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is actually known about these two Snoopy patches? Who made them, how were they distributed, and how common are they?

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posted 09-26-2011 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilverSnoopy   Click Here to Email SilverSnoopy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have 16 different NASA Snoopy patches. I'd like to what info others can share about them.

 

 

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posted 10-08-2011 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FFrench     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by spaced out:
What is actually known about these two Snoopy patches? Who made them, how were they distributed, and how common are they?

Going on a very old memory - I used to get the Stewart Aviation (UK) patch catalog as a teen, and seem to recall they sold a version of this.

Hart Sastrowardoyo
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posted 10-11-2011 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hart Sastrowardoyo   Click Here to Email Hart Sastrowardoyo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Give me some time and I'll check my storage totes - I used to know a lot about Snoopy and NASA (and at one time, maintained a website on same.)

Anything marked with (C) United Feature Syndicate or (C) UFS is officially licensed. That said, the DCAS and CSD Test Subjects patches are somewhat rare.

The "It can happen to you" patch was "signed" by a number of Apollo astronauts. There exists a similar patch for Skylab.

The Apollo 11 Lunar Team patch was also made for other moon missions.

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posted 10-11-2011 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Go4Launch   Click Here to Email Go4Launch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to the Skylab News Reference, this version of Snoopy appeared in the wardroom’s Waste Management Compartment to differentiate the three crewmens’ personal hygiene kits, their towel and washcloth dispensers, and their towels and washcloths. The background on the CDR’s insignia was red, the PLT’s was blue, and the SPT’s was white. The insignia on the SPT's washcloths and towels, however, had a light blue background.

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New cS member here! I happened to make a random stop at a local pawn shop, and made a wonderful discovery of the following stickers:
  1. Apollo 11 lunar team — blue sticker with red and black letters and Snoopy on dog house in helmet.

  2. MSC Zero in on safety in '73 - Green sticker with Skylab, Story Musgrave signature, and space walking Snoopy

  3. Eyes on the Stars - Blue Sticker with Snoopy

  4. Apollo Soyuz Space Teams - Blue sticker with Snoopy on CSM, and a bear on the Soyuz.
Does anybody know how many different mission related Snoopy stickers were made? I have done as much research as I can online, and have found only one other Snoopy sticker (like my green one but for Apollo 16). I would love to be able to make a complete collection, as these stickers have quickly grown on me!

Editor's note: Threads merged.

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I have seen a fair number of original Snoopy "Eyes on The Stars" decal/stickers, but have not seen this one with the red shield "PS" graphic in the lower left side (and do not see it on Google). Anyone else have one of these or know why the difference?

 

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posted 05-20-2012 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kosmo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could the red shield with pS represent the new shielded (beta) pressure suit that was developed after the Apollo 1 fire?

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posted 05-20-2012 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moorouge   Click Here to Email moorouge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Vitachrome are still going. Why don't you log onto their website and ask them?

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posted 06-18-2012 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've added a page on my CrewPatches.com website dedicated to NASA-related Snoopy patches.

It doesn't include everything but many of the above patches are covered.

All are modern reproductions based on vintage decal designs, in my opinion, most likely produced by Randy Hunt (4gator) in the 1990s.

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posted 06-20-2012 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As a follow up to the above posts please note that the image below shows a small selection of the Snoopy patches produced by Randy Hunt. It's discussed in more detail in this thread.

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posted 02-09-2013 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kosmo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This may answer barnstormer's question about the Snoopy "Eyes on The Stars" sticker.
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Originally posted by barnstormer:
...have not seen this one with the red shield "PS" graphic in the lower left side (and do not see it on Google). Anyone else have one of these or know why the difference?

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posted 02-09-2013 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Go4Launch   Click Here to Email Go4Launch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good work on the Grumman connection. So the PS would be for... Suggestion Program?

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quote:
Originally posted by Go4Launch:
Good work on the Grumman connection. So the PS would be for... Suggestion Program?
The "pS" were the initials of Grumman's "Project Sterling" as explained in this internal memo from 1967.

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posted 01-01-2014 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for p51   Click Here to Email p51     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone know the story on the "report that man to mission control" design?

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First, it should be noted that the patch is a forgery; the design never existed in embroidered form and was produced for sale without the permission of Peanuts Worldwide (or United Media).

To understand the design is to understand why Snoopy was put into use at NASA. Snoopy was specifically selected as a mascot for safety. As noted in some of the other designs (also stolen for patch forgeries), Snoopy was used in connection with slogans such as "Mission success is in your hands" and "Zero in on safety."

My understanding is that "Report that man to mission control" is a reference to similar posters and slogans employed at NASA encouraging workers to report when they saw a potential mission safety hazard.

All of it, and Snoopy's use, was born in the wake of the Apollo 1 fire, at a time when NASA was very concerned that another accident not occur.

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posted 01-01-2014 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for p51   Click Here to Email p51     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:
First, it should be noted that the patch is a forgery; the design never existed in embroidered form and was produced for sale without the permission of Peanuts Worldwide (or United Media).
Yeah, I knew it wasn't a copy of a patch that existed back then, that's why I used the word, "design," instead of patch. But thanks for the info, I never knew what that had originally been for. Funny how they recreated the copyright info, even though it's without the copyright holder's permission? Makes me wonder why the estate of Charles Schultz doesn't go after these people...

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Including (or not including) the copyright information can be traced back (at least in part) to the forgeries the SMEAT patch, which could be told apart by the presence of the copyright notice.

That said, I believe there was a degree of apathy involved, where the person who was making these for resale didn't care enough to alter any of the details from the original decal or poster.

As for United Media or Peanuts Worldwide pursing the sales, you're talking about a handful (at most) of patches selling for a few dollars each. It was probably not worth the legal fees.

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posted 02-17-2014 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kosmo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cozmosis22:
The "pS" were the initials of Grumman's "Project Sterling" as explained in this internal memo from 1967.
Thought cS members would be interested in these images:

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posted 08-06-2014 03:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tykeanaut   Click Here to Email Tykeanaut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is a reasonable price for a Randy Hunt Snoopy patch please? Thanks.

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As they are by definition counterfeits, I would suggest they carry no value at all.

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Whilst I agree with Robert that they are counterfeits, if you look past that then they are worth as much as any other replica.

I personally don't see any point in paying more for a replica than it would cost you to have an equally-good quality replica made yourself, although one-off patches are not cheap to have done.

In that sense it seems crazy to pay more than say $50 for a replica unless it has some history of its own.

In general I would say $10 to $30 is a reasonable range for a replica, depending on quality and complexity.

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In general, I agree Chris with your advice about replicas, but in this case (and ones like it), where someone else's protected art has been used without permission, I would suggest collectors treat the patches as they would a forgery or stolen artifact and avoid assigning them any value at all.

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